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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

misc thread of threads about working in a preschool https://t.co/MSOwSenLXe

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

today's my first day at the nursery school and i'm a little frightened!

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

ok, first preschool thread: im kind of horrified by how even at this early an age, so much of the innocuous, wholesome activities are preparing kids for the jail-like school system to come https://t.co/MSOwSenLXe

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

@love_of_reason @sashachapin people sometimes try to get at that as the mothering and fathering force, but i really like these: the desire-centered and the adaptiveness-centered, and where they meet one of the things about working preschoolers is often helping those parts meet

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

a group of kindergarten+ teachers were touring the preschool yesterday, and they went "wait, they get to be inside or outside as much as they want?" https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

im surprised how much the teachers (i just volunteer here) depend on long-term relationships of trust built up with the parents https://t.co/rih8KV8YZM

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

thinking today about culture humans pass down culture to their little ones and to each other. in a way, that's the grand fire of humanity: the fire of knowledge and skill, kept alive generation to generation, spread around, made even grander https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

on a more personal note i have a lot of shame about being around kids. being perceived as scary, the fact i have a beard, am a man, etc https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

a lot of ideas are killed because people treat kids' curiosity as projects https://t.co/g7yd5rhp8R

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

working with preschoolers makes it clear just how much their inner kid is so alive in them, and also how they would f***ing kill themselves if left to their own devices. they need the adult to create the space to be them https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

there's no time for me to "get properly ready" for my shift. i just need to show up however i am. however i am, that's what the kids get i am getting the sliiiightest taste of what it's like being a parent. it doesn't matter if you're ready. whatever you are is whatever they get https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

i keep thinking about how i am twice their size. end of day, it's like interacting with a giant who was twice the size of me. this fact just can't be ignored. we have so much power, to help them do things, to not https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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Matt Bateman@mbatemanover 1 year ago

“The teacher must be dignified as well as attractive. The teacher must be superior and not just a friend, as she is in today’s schools. The teacher and the children are not equals. There are enough children in the class without the teacher becoming a child with the children…

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

@uncatherio also been noticing that the mental space from which i deal with preschoolers is like… the space to deal with adults too

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

the most important thing i did today was plant a bee bush that will bring native californian bees the most important thing i did yesterday was play and tend to preschoolers the most important thing i did the day before that was hold what used to be a beating heart in my hands https://t.co/91Knhfw3oU

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

the preschoolers have way less trouble with my name than adults do https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

when kids make art, it's so obviously about whatever's just on their minds i think that would be good for me as an adult too. when im making art? it's just about whatever's on my mind. no fancy themes. just straightforwardly whatever's on my mind https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

oh, also, they are SO not afraid to just spend time making colours and shapes and you ask them what that is and they just say "i don't know" and carry on https://t.co/Cq7d6U5IRe

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

one more thing… when the kids make art, they are soo not trying to impress someone, or sometimes even "make something tangible". they're just putting colour on paper. the physical activity they are doing is the activity they are doing

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

even if i didn’t know anything about attachment styles, i sure as heck would invent them after working here 🥲😢 https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

i want to relate to others with the confidence of a 3yo who approaches other people as a potential playmate not too worried if they’ll like you or not. just curious. eager to poke. eager to see

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

on preschool and time: >The concept of allowing a child to complete an activity… was subordinate to the compelling nature of the 𝘴𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘭𝘦. >Instead, structure was believed efficient by the staff… and intended to give children a sense of security and consistency https://t.co/FMQLSA6HsR https://t.co/1xNbT6yd5u

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

i asked my singing teacher, if she liked teaching little kids, since she got me (and so many others) to access so much their childlike abilities she said no! little kids were kind of annoying to teach https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

on preschool, pre-literate societies, representation vs encounter, oral traditions and written communication — a rich page https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk https://t.co/nIwyBDzOMK

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

>Thus, the roles in this book occurred in many homes naturally and without reflection. The behaviours of…parents and children were so embedded in the setting that they became invisible and hence unimportant. Today…essential to recreate an experience that once happened naturally https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk https://t.co/6NFHCEhUMF

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

giving adults food and being like "haha jk it's poison!" must be like a universal developmental phase https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

maybe the connection between play and creativity isn't complete bullshit https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk https://t.co/K3IhHzgwj6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

so much of working with kids is just remembering things about them. having trouble leaving parents? "i remember before you loved playing with X! want to…?" feeling distressed and ill? bring over their favourite children's book https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

i am developing hate in my heart for the playground inspection people. so many iconic play elements gone. and they're still after the remaining ones. they have no room for nuance. you can't explain to them no one ever got hurt on the fireman's pole, or the rope swing https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

oh. preschool isn't based on dora the explorer. dora the explorer is based on preschool. i had it totally backward https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

deeply embarrassing a 3yo asked me to teach them how to write a "W". im sitting there, trying to help a 5yo comes over and more confidently helps this kid learn to write than me just got teacher mogged by a 5yo ama https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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not me but ❤️ https://t.co/PbXJNgVWxW

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Patrick McKenzie@patio11almost 4 years ago

So picture this: you’re a little kid climbing a stegosaurus statue and it is dwarfed by a featureless white plastic wall. The construction company pictured that. And painted an 8x10 foot dinosaur themed mural on the temporary wall. That’s the entire story.

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

people in my life keep assuming im good with kids, and im horrible. that's why im working here. i was never good with kids, even when i was a kid https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

it's mildly trippy to be around kids https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

kids make clear how awkwardness actually works and how much skill it takes to have fluid social interactions because they don't have it yet and they are trying their damn hardest to make it work https://t.co/rih8KV8YZM

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

i asked why we play duck duck goose at the preschool. it causes so much drama. the children just tag their friends, and kids feel really bad when they don't get a turn https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

on repetition https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk https://t.co/9oGyWO2gmg

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

mf when you realise that relationships help with teaching https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk https://t.co/6J4pNsRn0y

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

children love to clean. not always, not always in ways we want them to. but in their own time and ways, they’re happy to put things away https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

kids make clear how awkwardness actually works and how much skill it takes to have fluid social interactions because they don't have it yet and they are trying their damn hardest to make it work https://t.co/rih8KV8YZM

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

the same things that make me confident and effective as a teacher in the preschool (a feeling of mastery, autonomy, connection) are the same things that help kids be engaged in a new activity so much of helping them with an activity is helping them feel those things https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

so this is actually how chatgpt has helped me write too, and to be honest, when i want preschoolers to figure out something themselves, i sometimes "do it in a bad way" just for them to be like "NOOO THAt'S DUMB" and suddenly they're engaged and figuring it out https://t.co/sz1uDIWaM2

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

it's funny but the same sort of moves i used to do back when i was finding self love for myself are the same exact moves at the preschool especially with some of the shyer children https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

at the preschool, i have to resist this idea to say to any question they ask, "let’s look it up on google" i have to resist https://t.co/6XMUnRuWzZ

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

completely tangentially, research on baby language acquisition shows that the size of your vocabulary or number of distinct words spoken to the baby matters way less than just how many conversational turns you take back and forth https://t.co/cYRH4P2HAg

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

ime it seems false that kids have a short attention span? they seem to have very long attention span—if it's something they're interested in they just have a short attention span for boring adult things like reading and homework https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

it's such an idyllic place, this preschool. you know, i didn't believe in that word before this https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

some observations about lying 1. at some point, children seem to discover lying 2. some do it more than others 3. some have phases where they do it a lot 4. it is extremely funny to see parents realise their precious little one has played them in the most gangsta way https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

it's funny, some of the older children are so much better than others at resolving conflict. it's a real skill. they flexibly propose solutions, peacably work it out, aren't too bothered. i can see how the skills and experiences here actually accrete https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

one of the things they recommend to work with difficult children is to observe them for a while. when you do that, you can't help but like them more and you know one of the heartbreaking thing about kids is they always know which adults actually like them https://t.co/QGAT4a5Dyy

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

>Would another teacher have rushed in to correct him? Would they have not noticed that he actually knows when his letters are written funny? Would it have sucked some of the fun out to have a teacher correct him every time? Would they have not waited https://t.co/5vpS0YYUWG https://t.co/4AUVIFXLU4

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

there seem to be two types of children: children who hold grudges, and children who get flashes of anger think it's the same with adults too https://t.co/rih8KV9wPk

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

same with kids. want them to be interested in something? show them how to do something slightly "wrong"

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

it takes effort to put our hands into the world, and make things. i see this with my preschoolers all the time. cutting paper, does not come for free. moulding sand into shapes, does not come for free. they fight for the right to mould the world as they see fit every day https://t.co/QGAT4a6bo6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

my intuition was spot-on i learned way more about mythosomatics and ritual, and storytelling and singing and communal cohesion building, from working at a preschool than from adult attempts to "create ritual" and "group bonding" in the same way

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

each and every child i worked with, has indelibly changed something in me. it’s not merely that i love them; it’s that i also feel so much grief of them—i suppose i was drawn to the ones for whom that’s way more obvious. https://t.co/HJMXrXdV7b

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

ive seen a kid who blames himself that way. a little version of me. when i first stepped into the classroom, i instantly clocked him you know what he looked like? https://t.co/W5qkfYfOe2

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago

it’s something i saw at the preschool all the time. did someone stub their toe? spill their water and feel kind of dumb about it? you could almost see the charge of energy build up in their body. some would completely try to arrest it. some would cry

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthabout 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthabout 1 year ago

it's like the difference in preschool between making a child be happy vs truly enjoying them in whatever they are feeling and bringing right now

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthabout 1 year ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthabout 1 year ago

my "productivity technique" is "do whatever feels like the most important thing to be doing right now". and quite often, it'll be scary, or tedious, in which case i help myself do it the way i'd help a 5yo it works. it feels obvious. it makes me think what was i doing before?

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth12 months ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth12 months ago

it feels like a like teaching 5yos at a preschool. not getting involved or bought into their drama. but just being around to help them with whatever it is they’re trying to do or that’s bothering them as it comes up

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth11 months ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth11 months ago

@webdevMason standard advice to preschool teachers was to not ask a question if you don't genuinely intend to give the child a choice 1. ask questions when you genuinely intend to give them a choice 2. otherwise, kindly say, "i am going to do this now, ok?"

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth11 months ago
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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth11 months ago

this thread is getting unwieldy, so misc thread of threads about working in a preschool pt. 2

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Matt Bateman@mbatemanover 1 year ago
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@AskYatharth I’ll tell you what the women who mentored me as a preschool assistant teacher 20+ years ago said: you’re offering a rare, unique value as a male preschool educator and you should lean into it

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