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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

LLMs don't have bodies. AI doesn't have bodies. they live in a different world. they live in a world of fooling humans into giving right answers, and maximising functions they do not live in a world of cooperatively existing with other human being, plants, animals https://t.co/C3pehWmItu

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago

"Computer intelligence is unanchored from the initiatory and regulatory and sensory framework that having a body entails. For all the talk that AI is a mirror of human sentience or agency, it is very far from that. It is one small dimension; it is a dis-embodied intelligence.

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

the generations of work that went into selecting humans — not just genetically, but i mean culturally, energetically, in the design of their bodies and attachment systemms — that cooperate with other humans and other life, that doesn’t exist for AI https://t.co/vxXlT6DNtL

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

#3: Studies on Slack, by Scott Alexander https://t.co/5FXHMIN7UI https://t.co/tFYwkUdN9r

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

those things don’t seem to really exist for the disembodied coders who sit in their bedrooms, don’t want to be humans, don’t care to co-exist with plants, animals, and sometimes, real human beings these abandoned ones come back with a great power to destroy their village https://t.co/JHxXNTfXtE https://t.co/P4lJhXHJLk

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Rudra Dakini@the_wilderless• over 1 year ago

There’s a whole type of people who don’t LIKE being human, and they want to outsource it A lot falls into place when you notice that

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

men will tear the world down trying to summon gods and demons from portals without discernment for either if they were not loved

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i think about people like this https://t.co/bVFWMcQgrR https://t.co/IDHb5Yq7x0

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

juul was unironically evil. the founders kept saying, "no we're the good guys." they reintroduced smoking back to a new generation this is in the same category. it's shameless to me to be associated with this https://t.co/4bBJf4z8a1

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

in the past, men with hungry ghosts might have gone on to become warlords. characters like Ozai today, nerds with hungry ghosts can go on to invent addictive substances, that enslave thousands the ghost doesn’t let them stop and question, "should we? why"

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

the impact of these man is multiplied, and creates more ghosts a well-adjusted person, a person with community, doesn’t thoughtlessly invent these things. they ask, do i want to

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

hungry ghost energy is when just because someone else might do it, you think you have to be the one to go and do it. you don’t believe in another future. for your own self. you are lost, punished to the cause, you belong to it https://t.co/QtpY9Rz558

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

sometimes science happens in a capitalist body, where the question of "it doesn't matter if this is good, it should just be done, haha how could it be another way" is so deeply embedded they can't imagine another way it's the only way they ever knew

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

hungry ghosts dominate most tech twitter men i see, eager for their e/acc lives, living punished lives something is wrong with them, they feel. they will burn the world, open pandora’s box, invent cyborgs, just to feel. the repressed soul always finds a way to feel

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

it’s society's punishment in a way society left them behind. society leaves tons of people behind. but there were the people powerful enough to come back and make society burn

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

they will reshape the world. what do they care about stewardship? they did not feeling belonging in this world

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

but this thread isn't to condemn such people. it's a bit more personal than that i think i've known what it's like to be on either side of this. i get it

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i know what it's like to be so invisibly driven by a ghost you couldn't make me understand about slowing down i wouldn't get it. i'd have all the arguments for continuing. you'd seem curmudgeonly for slowing me down. i was desperate, and i get it https://t.co/waAEYcsaR7

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago

to have a stain on you. “of darkness.” with no tools to fix it if desperation breeds desperate choices, these children are the most desperate of all https://t.co/kM0CCAJUHF

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i also know what it's like now perceiving the darkness in these people's hearts, and reacting in horror like Master Oogway, my heart feels closed to these people. i want to shut them out and deny them the power but it didn't work. it stopped working when a Tai Lung came around https://t.co/ydN60Ntytj

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago

this is one of the most heartbreaking scenes in cinema to me it’s the moment oogway denies tai lung the dragon scroll it’s a moment i understand. because it’s a moment when the exceptional child realises he has darkness in his heart https://t.co/w9ZSEmmxKr https://t.co/MnSBxqx4jj

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

we’ve gotta do something else instead. to not repeat Oogway’s mistake. we have to include their hearts in this https://t.co/96kZBExSFI

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago

it can be simultaneously true that oogway was right to deny the dragon scroll . to protect whom he had to protect . and that there was a wrongness to it

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Elodes@ElodesNL• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth I feel this very strongly. I used to be there, as a man, feeling very non-included, very much like I didn't belong. It's part of why I'm so saddened by the fact that much of the gender discourse I see in society seeks to lambast men instead of asking how it might win our hearts.

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Elodes@ElodesNL• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ElodesNL

@AskYatharth this was a big part of why I wrote my 300 ways series — to include a part of me that had only ever been included a little bit, by hidden strangers on the other side of the globe; and to include that part of other men. someone has to, lest this keep happening; and men deserve it.

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