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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

people ask how LLMs are different from humans. humans could just make shit up too! and... they do... sometimes. the humans who are cynical. so removed from goodness, they are living on simulacra level 4, words mean nothing in reference to reality to them, nothing means anything https://t.co/z8wVHbj9Iz

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

it's possible to destroy a commons. this is how you do it the basic trust you could give to a website or book is gone. we don't live in that society anymore most of the floor is crap, and every door is constantly searched by hounds trying to get in https://t.co/goap63zy4I

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

but they're still rare. politicians, increasingly a new generation of disillusioned people but largely, human bodies and persons have been tracking reality and care more about it than LLMs LLMs are disembodied. their relationship to reality isn't real. it's only with the text

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

AI people don't get why embodiment discourse would be relevant to them of course they don't. that's exactly why they need it. this stuff is invisible to them unoptimisable, unmonetisable, and so un-relevant

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

scientists and engineers don't realise anything about bodies bodies are not real to them, so they don't perceive them they don't know science itself happens in a cultural body: sometimes science is grounded in slow growth. in a culture of ethics so embodied it's not a mental q

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

sometimes science happens in a capitalist body, where the question of "it doesn't matter if this is good, it should just be done, haha how could it be another way" is so deeply embedded they can't imagine another way it's the only way they ever knew

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

when i say >in a culture of ethics so embodied it's not a mental question i mean something like this https://t.co/sCyilYrctO

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

i didn't expect i'd want to compost, not for environmental reasons but because it hurts to think of this lineage of fruit and vegetables going into the trash instead of being returned

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

as i become more animist, i find myself in a web of mutual obligation not obligation in the sense as modern people experience it, as an imposed coercion but obligation in the sense of a mutual feeling. of knowing and being known https://t.co/ImGRg5gSh9

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• almost 2 years ago

just because we "bought" a dog, paid $500 for it to someone our current system recognises the dog as property of, doesn't mean we can do anything the dog we recognise we still have some obligation to the dog it's the same with objects. and fruits and vegetables

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

related thread from elena LLMs don't have bodies. AI doesn't have bodies. they live in a different world. they live in a world of fooling humans into giving right answers, and maximising functions they do not live in a world of cooperatively existing https://t.co/bYdr9IpL31

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

LLMs don't have bodies. AI doesn't have bodies. they live in a different world. they live in a world of fooling humans into giving right answers, and maximising functions they do not live in a world of cooperatively existing with other human being, plants, animals https://t.co/C3pehWmItu

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