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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago

hmmmmmmmmmmm i think my interest in "non-coercion" is better described as a battle against nihilism and narcissism

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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right, so a big part of "non-coercion" for me was trying to figure out what there even was inside me that could push/pull/power/move me in some direction i realized at some point i *couldn't* FEEL what i wanted, it freaked me the fuck out https://t.co/WC0SrBrjZi

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago

was dwelling on why i care about non-coercion and all that i dug up and published an old journal entry from the summer where i first realized the ways my emotional and motivational shit was twisted up in a way that was hurting me https://t.co/FPfPiB2GI9

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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riffing off of @visakanv, i framed a lot of the journey as developing a "taste" for what it felt like to be me, growing a sensitivity to my own experience, and a discernment of what i liked and didn't "feel the meaning/value/worth" https://t.co/zWxWweXQHs

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Hazard@natural_hazardabout 5 years ago

The ability to want/value/care/like is an ability that needs to be practiced and developed. I think of Taste as developing a sensitivity to your own experience of the world. A literal sense organ that thru attention and practice you can increase the resolution of

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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one reason i had to even DO this was because of an accuse incident where I feel into a nihilism pit, couldn't intellectually find value in anything, and that allowed harsh angry self-judgement to ATTACK me every time i felt care/meaning/value https://t.co/yHNJTQtDgB

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Hazard@natural_hazardabout 5 years ago

the particular cocktail of memes and experiences that lead me to existential emptiness, missing the second half of the story for how I got out of it https://t.co/zZj0AYgOWQ

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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/leading me to tune out of, dissociate from, ignore, and let atrophy my capacity to feel into things, and experience the direct obviousness of value

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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up until last week i kinda forgot about how that crisis actively degraded mt ability to feel. though i was blocked on all sorts of stuff in high-school, i was across the board more able to FEEL, care, and enjoy, than post existential breakdown.

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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i've got endless on-the-ground-guerilla-meditation style tactics for relearning to feel, but there's also an important sense in which emotionally and intellectually undoing the grip of nihilism on my heart was what allowed that change

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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k, so what about narcissism? currently narcissism is one of the better handles i have to point at the mode of relating to the world that i used instead of being guided by taste/internal discernment

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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after the breakdown, i was pretty confident i'd never feel good/okay ever. and yet i still needed to act. how to act/do/decide when nothing feels different? what i ended up with was a very symbolic/dissociated way of relating to the world

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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k, but what fueled the dissacoiated symbols? pain/fear/narcissism. kinda it's the difference between "oh no! I am doing Toxic Masculinity! That's Bad!" and "oh no! I am hurting myself and my loved ones in these concrete ways!" https://t.co/QrU7cRFNgh

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 4 years ago

sometimes "being a useful concept for social coordination and collective change" is mutually exclusive with "being a useful concept for personal growth and understanding yourself"

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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shoulds operate on the exact same symbolic substrate that narcissism acts on shoulds are normally powered by threats to some symbolic identity/self that you've been nudged into constructing (ht @Morphenius )

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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fighting against "should" has felt like trying to fight my way out of a dissociated symbolic simulation of the world, where things in the world are robbed of their natural motive force, except when mediated through being embedded in the right social/symbolic substrate

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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there's lots of ways in which some narrative/symbolic structure can become more *real* than reality https://t.co/QGVFE3K4U1

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 4 years ago

acidQC said - the rest of these have been paraphrases but this one is a direct quote: "your parents created a world for you where the most real thing was how they felt about you. they successfully used money to make everything else less real by protecting you from it" https://t.co/RZhEiY2oo0

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Hazard@natural_hazardover 3 years ago
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dunno if i have more thoughts. but yeah, last 3 years the "non-coercion" got primacy, now i'm thinking about things more as a quest of disassembling the dregs nihilism and narcissism in my psyche and increasing my direct contact with the world

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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@natural_hazard 🤯

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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@natural_hazard 🤯

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
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@natural_hazard https://t.co/cLpQFc4h1N

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 4 years ago

this is the heart of philosophy, all else is commentary 🧐 https://t.co/7uu4B9YhpH

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