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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago

gonna try to tweet out the current draft of the mini book I'm writing working title "Taste vs Tests: How we learned to let others define what matters"

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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I finished undergrad at a fancy STEM school this past May. I switched my major 3.5 times in 4 years, going from mechanical engineering, to electrical computer engineering, to a self defined major, to philosophy this story's about not knowing what you want; my domain of expertise

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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I was obsessed with this quote at the end of highschool Of Course! No decisions matter unless you Know What You Want! i reflected endlessly on what I wanted, how to best craft my goals, and making sure I was always acting of my own volition, never just "going with the flow" https://t.co/w45hcyTnHU

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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I still think that understanding what you want is of utmost importance, but I relate to the idea incredibly differently from how I used to I thought "knowing what you wanted" looked like having A Mission. All the cool kids had A Mission, and I wanted one sooo bad

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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I also bought into the very pervasive frame that "doing what you really want" was mostly about getting rid of forces that are trying to pull you in other directions. You needed to Stop Caring What Others Think and Just Be You. there is a "true you", it just needs liberation

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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through a long Series of Interesting Events i've come think less in terms of "figuring out what I want" and more in terms of "cultivating taste" it's a frame shift that uses a different metaphor to add important details that I didn't appreciate for many years

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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The ability to want/value/care/like is an ability that needs to be practiced and developed. I think of Taste as developing a sensitivity to your own experience of the world. A literal sense organ that thru attention and practice you can increase the resolution of

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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@voyageur_techno asked me "what's the difference between taste and elitism?" They way a lot of people talk about taste *is* just elitism. These are the GOOD things, you're not allowed in unless you like them. I focus on Taste as sensitivity, not just as a thumbs up or down

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Elitism is about prestige "I've got good taste!" ≈ "I like what the cool people like!" Compare that to being aware or more and more aspects of your experience, how they connect to other experiences, and how all that FEELS

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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I claim that elitism and prestige are the natural attractors you'll fall into if you don't cultivate taste. Imagine a culinary school that teaches students the foundations of cooking and all The Classic Recipes, but never lets them taste the food they make.

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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All their work is graded by judges with "good taste". These students will learn to cook "good food" or drop out You graduate from this school top of your class and are given your own restaurant. Finally, freedom! You can cook anything! No constraints! Except...

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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food means nothing to you EXCEPT thru how it has been judged by the school. You don't know what it tastes like for a dish to be savory. You don't know what it tastes like to be over seasoned. As importantly, you don't know what YOU think tastes good

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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If you let your sense of taste atrophy, it won't be high resolution enough to guide you through the complexities of life. And you'll fall back on what you've practiced, on what you know "works". Cooking something that scores points

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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In university, the flavor of prestige in the air that I got lead by was rigor. Do all the hard classes. Pick fights with scary classes with big reputations. It's really bad at my Uni. Kids will routinely pull all nighters to tackle to be lauded as "gods" for working so hard

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Tests are the main force I see opposing Taste. I see both the elitism of liking the right things, and actual Uni exams as both being Tests. The defining feature is having a legible scoring system that tells you *exactly* how well you are doing

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Tests plop a value system in front of you, tell you how every outcome will be scored, give a total ordering allowing you to compare all scores, and insist that you obviously want the highest score possible.

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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I'm not a Test abolitionist. That's a way broader and more tricky topic. I want to demonstrate how pressure to Ace Tests pushes you to sensitize to the value system of the test instead of sensitizing to your own experience (aka, developing taste)

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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The more pressure, the more you look for certainty. If your taste is in early stages of development, it doesn't give a lot of certainty. But Tests offer certainty. All the have to do is get A Good Score and then You Pass! So simple! So easy!

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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A paradox that has haunted me, from absorbing some advice: 1). It'll never happen unless you have a concrete plan with concrete goals. Get to work! 2). The most important things are stuff like love/happiness/meaning 3). The above are nebulous and can't be made into a checklist

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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sooooo... what matters most can't be articulated as a concrete goals, and the only valid/likely-to-work method to get anywhere is via concrete goals? SO AM I JUST FUCKED???????

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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There are narratives that want to tell you that Test like things, legible things, are the only things you can trust. You cant have an ambiguous goal! How would you know if you achieved it?! Taste can be "ambiguous", but that doesnt mean it cant provide clarity and conviction

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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The "ambiguity" that Tests decry is more about Legibility: can a bunch of people easily agree on it? You can get everyone to agree that you've got a 4.0 GPA. You can't get everyone to agree that your thesis displays creative intelligence.

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Some important things in life are literally Tests. But things like being happy, feeling successful, having a life that you like, finding a community you feel you belong in, none of that is a Test.

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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There is no "If you cross of this checklist, you have achieved meaningful belonging!" These things are ground in you and your own experience, and strong Taste (sensitivity) let's you keep reorienting towards them

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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So far, the only criticism I've had of Tests is that people are pressured to sensitive to Tests instead of to themselves. Equally scary is the consistent pressure to accept Tests as real, meaningful, and objective reflection of [thing being tested]

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8/6/2020
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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Historically, most Tests came about to create a gate to some resources. Typically, the closer the resource is to something we think everyone "deserves" the more pressure there is for the grading process (not just the score) to be a Legible process

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Ex. People are more okay with the Oscars being judged by panel with no oversight, than college admissions, hence things like the SAT.

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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When a Test gatekeeps an important resource, there's societal pressure to rationalize the existence of the test. "SAT basically measure intelligence, and there's no point going to college if you aren't smart enough"

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Most Tests aren't close to the real thing. The best strays for scoring well on the tests are at odds with best strays for developing whatever the test is supposed to measure. They are hackable. Goodhart attacks.

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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Tests not only take attention away fro Taste, they try to assert themselves as all that is. It's the logic of Tests that says anything besides "unambiguous concrete goals" is fake. Not only are Tests not *your* value system, they are more impoverished than any real value system

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Hazard@natural_hazard• about 5 years ago
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So, what happens when a system/person that only understands the logic of Tests is given the message that having A Mission, Doing What You Want, and Liberating Your True Self are what's most important?

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecool• about 5 years ago
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@natural_hazard That this doesn't have a follow-on tweet (at time of writing) is the perfect answer IMO Word of the Day: Aposiopesis

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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@natural_hazard 🤯

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