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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• almost 6 years ago

THE YEAR IS 2060 the first generation of American children who are majority the product of embryo selection are coming of age how has the world been affected?

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11/20/2019
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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• almost 6 years ago
Replying to @eigenrobot

Remember with embryo selection you're just making drawing from parents' genenomes! This isn't direct genome tailoring and can't (in the first generation) control uterine hormonal exposure

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11/20/2019
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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• almost 6 years ago
Replying to @eigenrobot

unsure what to make of responses that are "any effects will be dominated by the one thing i happen to be On About right at this moment" guess i might have predicted this

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11/20/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 6 years ago
Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot https://t.co/XP2XVEjinL

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago

The trick to this? Slowly migrate your thinking in such a way that the shit you are on about IS the monocausal result of the specific nature of the universe. ♾ https://t.co/38lOVo7xpy

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11/20/2019
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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• almost 6 years ago
Replying to @eigenrobot

oh this is good a more-likely cause of divide in use of embryo selection than simple wealth: different rates of planned vs unplanned pregnancy across populations oh boy https://t.co/BXUidfZjCF

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11/20/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 6 years ago
Replying to @eigenrobot

@eigenrobot 8% - 20% of various populations will be diagnosed as autistic or schizophrenic because of selection for high IQ genes.

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11/20/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 6 years ago
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@eigenrobot So basically same thing we have going on now. People will be taking risks w/ their offspring & not accounting for how diet and environment affect epigenetic processes, mostly because all our science is tainted by statistical artifacts stemming from RCTs and street light effects.

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11/20/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 6 years ago
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@eigenrobot Meanwhile, someone has stolen my ideas is using it to build super soldiers.https://t.co/BqvaEQiPGG

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11/20/2019
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot The kind of person who is willing to eat dog shit despite social taboos.https://t.co/dKmwhNrYcx

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

Imagine working out or getting gene editing serum when you could just impact the metabolic pathways that myostatin inhibits by changing your gut bacteria.https://t.co/jpy3u2c9Ir

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10/29/2022
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot What's funny to me is I score in the upper red zone and am autistic. I was natural born, but it's funny to think that you may be inadvertently selecting for autistic children given this meta-analysis of autism risk in IVF:https://t.co/0NwWetJMx7https://t.co/9v5OqPbZec

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Many conditions that are risk of infertility are also risks of autism in children. Its funny to me, because everyone assumes that these traits are random and not correlated variables.

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Once you get past the hurdle into IVF, you're already high risk of failed IVF and may need to do the harder ones that increase the risk.https://t.co/cvKn32NnKn

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Did you know autistic people are more likely to infertile?Its really funny to me. Makes me laugh.https://t.co/LfpyLGf8dZ

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 2 years ago

My GF's endocrinologist looked at her blood work, seeing fixed Testoterone, fixed hba1c, fixed TSH, and improved vitamin D.... And just assumed it was from exercising & losing weight.She's exercised less and weight loss occurred AFTER her PCOS fixed.https://t.co/HpMRJN2rxO

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot I can quote the CDC on this too."Overall, children conceived using ART were about two times more likely to be diagnosed with ASD compared to children conceived without using ART." https://t.co/FKOiXSoAEj

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Is autism genetic? Can we select for autism in the embryo? If so, do we want more autistic people?https://t.co/ghJEszjeXY

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago

@ekverstania It's as if this view autism as entirely genetic and thus view it thru a genetic essentialism lens. Effectively these views are reinforcing the idea of an autistic master race / racial minority group. Which turns this discussion into one about identity.https://t.co/eO3EHIwnly

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot I don't like being autistic. https://t.co/evlPiEo4eP

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 9 years ago

But there isn't an "it gets better" campaign for the spectrum. At least not one that I know of. Best I've heard is "You learn to survive".

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot The funny thing is, this will inevitably lead to generations of depressed high-IQ autistic people who end up not having children. So the problem is self-mediating. Doesn't take a genius to figure this out.https://t.co/jCislSzsqJ

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot What happens if you also select for gut health tho...https://t.co/1O3wPXoYdx

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

@eigenrobot I'm learning how to leverage autism related TRPM8 to be able to not blink by figuring out what drives dry eye in a disease that is also more common in people related to Von Neumann. https://t.co/IoOrsJMgOA

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Selecting for IQ alone is not going to lead to healthy people. https://t.co/VHTGg8LVdJ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 5 years ago

This was linked on HN 6 months ago. Goes into some detail on the hypermind/hyperbody weirdness, and how so many people in mensa have strange mood and immune issues.https://t.co/o6tm6aW41T

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Did you know if you wanna score really high on an IQ test used for egg / sperm selection, you can just dope yourself with moda?Why select among your own egg/ sperm when you can select among everyone's?https://t.co/3m7Ru4AeBI

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 6 years ago

@substitute @eigenrobot I dug into that whole IQ + reaction time thing that rely on the fact that olympic sprinters have high IQs. Turned out many are doping with stuff like modafinil. The more I dig, the more fall apart. I think it's a deep myth.I wonder why so many football players get arthritis.

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot This isn't really even a new idea. https://t.co/WKXdgjSAzU

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot "When it comes to physiological diseases, people with high cognitive abilities are 213% more likely to have environmental allergies, 108% more likely to have asthma, and 84% more likely to have an autoimmune disease."https://t.co/83GoYEqBYa

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot "available evidence suggests that gut microbiota is linked to cognitive performance and that manipulation of gut microbiota could be a promising avenue for enhancing cognition which warrants further research." https://t.co/We9IRLnH5Fhttps://t.co/MvM5zcA1ds

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 4 years ago

I figured out how to reverse a life long Prosopagnosia because I wanted to be able to recognize faces of famous scientists do speed up my ability to link ideas together.https://t.co/tw6FpbjW6wI am am not smart enough to explain how dumb we are all collectively being right now.

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Fix the gut."In summary, the present study showed the differences in the abundance of gut microbiota between fertile and infertile female groups, [...] supplementation helped improve gut dysbiosis and the success of pregnancy in females with infertility" https://t.co/F6ob6RR6I9

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Did you know the Stroop test correlates really well with IQ? I can literally get perfect scores now.https://t.co/3OJ7x9K2WR

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot I can destroy IQ tests now. They're jokes.https://t.co/wA0i7eExl2

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Skeletal muscle strength, reaction time, memory, cognitive flexibility and balance, all thru the roof now. I am going to try to take another formal IQ test this summer to see how well I do.https://t.co/wYfh7w4fff

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 7 years ago

@MimeticValue My favorite games involve reaction time. Some days I have sub 5ms responses, other days I'll have 50+ms responses. I IQ tested as part of autism diagnosis. I scored high despite it being a bad day for me mentally. There is a major gap in reasearch IMHO https://t.co/VQBQmXlrRK

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot We haven't even begun to explore this space in any meaningful capacity, and everyone is still stuck on an idea that IQ is innate cuz of our collective idiocy.https://t.co/57BIvC5cNG

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

@pmarca @sbaroncohen When I took an IQ test to get my autism diagnosis, I was in the middle of an M.S. decline. I still technically qualified for Mensa.IQ drops are really common with that condition. Do you ever wonder if you can raise IQ with gut bacteria? Cuz you can. https://t.co/wYfh7w4fff

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot "Myelin degeneration and diminished myelin renewal contribute to age-related deficits in memory" [2020]https://t.co/wraVHaMjoPI linked this to autism in 2019, lmao.https://t.co/27Hng1KQVd

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 3 years ago

@bradstradamus @AaronEstel @JimmyRis Which also happens to be a subsystem that is likely driving myelin issues in autism.https://t.co/gozOfY58bD

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot I already fixed this back in Jan 2022:"Memory impairment in autism goes beyond poor facial recognition, a Stanford Medicine team showed. The finding suggests a wide role for memory in the neurobiology of the disorder." [2023] https://t.co/Ou0cgWAVlO

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot The research on gut health and memory problems has been stewing since 2018, when they were exploring lactobacteriahttps://t.co/Pe2grUbbA5I was already in full swing on this by 2019https://t.co/cfA28sCWDo

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 6 years ago

@SimnaniIqbals @Mangan150 @SumSumFliege There are a bunch of high IQ genes tied to Longevity. Some of the correlations may be due to changes in insulin management and downstream impacts on cholesterol/calcium absorption in the gut. Memory and mental ability may enhance this further thru smarter diet choices.

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot We can fix the demyelination by fixing the bile function, and you can do that via gut health.https://t.co/CrgG7OQe0t

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 6 years ago

@PLT_cheater @The_Lagrangian @JimmyRis yes, good thing my liver can produce bile acid on demand on top of having a well functioning gallbladder. I specifically taylor my diet to promote Lactobacilli colonies (what ferments saurkraut?) that trigger FXR antagonism to increase bile acid pool size https://t.co/GsosCWhdpg

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot There's been a hypothesis about brain myelination and intelligence on record since 1994. I know a lot about Einstein's brain, you see... https://t.co/jOPhotlJSehttps://t.co/fdaQ6J1g0h https://t.co/jpmcLDgTFt

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot ANYWAY... you can actually calculate how much it costs to select 1000 embryos. at anywhere from 8-15 per harvest it isn't that bad. $10k-$20k a harvest. The hard part is that you have to account for the storage costs and time between procedures to heal. https://t.co/3Xn1HnJ6aC

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Most people don't wait that long after harvesting because they want a child right away; so typically its an average of two harvests before implantation. Most of the time involved is the fertilization step which also doubles as a test of the egg validity. https://t.co/pPC1rVymSt

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Guessing if an egg is valid with out actually throwing sperm at it is much harder. I have been exploring this space because it may also help us with artificial oocyte generation.Testing eggs without killing them is hard.https://t.co/ZmYoO1ceHg

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

"While at the organismal level, biological aging can be estimated by telomere length and DNA methylation signatures, reliable biomarkers that can predict reproductive age are much needed to gauge the quality of an oocyte." https://t.co/xSn9IZWWJm🥚👀https://t.co/6jpFZislXv

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot You an get a an estimate by comparing genes, but this isn't the same thing as testing the individual egg or sperm. Companies exist that can do the former.https://t.co/F3JFU6eNwf

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot The cost to do an IVF with "Preimplantation Genetic Testing" is significantly more than just a simple IVF. Typically that is done just to test for issues that impact implantation. I can't find prices on additional screening costs.https://t.co/VsR9jsshWX

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Eyeballing it, this would cost a minimum of $2,000,000 assuming the $20k price is roughly accurate.It may also be dangerous to do repeatedly since the process of harvesting is stressful. And the meds associated aren't part of the procedure cost.https://t.co/UwDAE7gK5u https://t.co/R2UZ1muYV2

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot This sounds like a lot, but considering you can buy a gallon of hose cum for 4.7 million from @GLOCKInc for a pure bred racehorce, the prices make more sense.I'm still trying to find prices on dog semen.https://t.co/axRh86bb7B

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot If really rich people will pay that much for horse cum, then I can imagine that this is already being done in some circles.https://t.co/Xid06uI6ed

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Interestingly, the pre-implant test for horse embryos only cost $120https://t.co/7PY368Ce7xKnow any good vets?

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot You can... just not tell anyone you're growing vat babies.https://t.co/4PPO8QfwEqhttps://t.co/4cu93PahES https://t.co/Gjdq19ccA9

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 6 years ago

I nightmare of futures in which external pregnancy (ectogenisis) is required by law in order to minimize a child's chances of mental disorder; of course that mental disorder is defined by the state.In secret, the military uses that technology to raise clone armies in vats.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Something that stood out to me in my research is that someone has successfully freeze-dried mouse cum and mailed it thru the post successfully.https://t.co/oKCDQbEgu6

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot If you haven't yet, watch "man of steel" (2013), I don't want to give away the plot, but it's a good sci-fi movie on the topic of ectogenesis. Superman has an autistic sensory meltdown in it too, lmao.https://t.co/HMdGN6oJWF

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2/20/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Human monkey hybrids, grown in vats. Served up in the next clone war. I think 2040 is a better estimate.https://t.co/rL3TCHLnvQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago

@GRITCULT The same university is making progress on vat-grown monkeys. The hybridization is really a red-herring.https://t.co/UfrOIgR130

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2/21/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Tired: Nietzsche ÜbermenschWired: Jung's Al-chemical Self TransformationInspired: Svyatagor’s BiocosmismHired: Embodying the absurdity of the universe and naming my squirrelfriend Camus so he can hunt dogs. https://t.co/5LrHyLviV9https://t.co/cLWO2LNYbk

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

My autism will know no bounds.https://t.co/BVlU0HzSZ6

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9/8/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• 12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot One of the reasons why I fixate on grip strength isn't because of IQ, but because heart muscle failure seems to correlate it and is likely a cause for heart attacks s we age. https://t.co/V93uLMPuVRAutistics get sarcopenia at really high rates. https://t.co/HiZRQ2Wxhf

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9/24/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• 12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

@eigenrobot Heart attack risk is also very high. I make funny poetry about this. https://t.co/YQWFkXNN9b

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 3 years ago

I know I'm autistic b/c of obsesses.And things that I say like "Do you think my semen fluoresces?"Autism has weird chemistry around choline.TMAO, ayy-lamo, I'm sure this is fine.I wonder if it matters for phosphocreatine.Cuz on solving my heartattack risk? I'm pretty keen.

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9/24/2024