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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago

Finally posted a critique of effective altruism that took me 6 months to write, ā€œEffective altruism in the garden of endsā€: https://t.co/Ot52uIqZpb

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Here’s a tweet from friggin’ April talking about itI hope you find it useful, even though I rushed my positive account toward the end, a proposal for reconciling EA with the good life https://t.co/pHNxj5rVGU

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago

For the past 3 weeks been trying to write a manifesto on an alternative to effective altruism. It’s been brutalMy first draft was cogent, but uninspiring. My second draft tries to capture what *being* a die-hard EA was likeI’ve had to relive that time to relate to it

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Shoutout 2 tweeters who helped me write it @anderssandberg @algekalipso @__drewface @AnneSelke @ellie__hain @georgejrjrjr @edelwax @lizasimonova @kathryndevaney @MilanGriffes @flowerornament @NathanpmYoung @RafaRuizdeLira @tasshinfogleman @valor_zhang @Jesper_G_Ostman @zhukeepa

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9/1/2022
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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

I wish I had read this post by @SpencrGreenberg when I first joined EA. It might have spared me a lot of the confusion & suffering I describe in the essay above 😬Link:https://t.co/iVE8HbYJhm https://t.co/7KGeTwevjZ

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9/8/2022
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Rick Benger@rickbenger• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Well worth the incubation! ✨

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8/31/2022
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Loopy@strangestloop• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman "One of the most simple ways to change one's life is to ask: of all activities I currently engage as means, how can I find elements in them to engage as ends?"

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9/1/2022
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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @strangestloop

@strangestloop Thread on this: https://t.co/OnWR9RvGM5

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago

Playing w one recipe for the Good Life, which is ā€œfind the end in every instantā€ until effortlessā€œLive in the momentā€Too unspecific šŸ‘Ž I’m talking abt noticing the *specific thing* supplied by the moment that I*already appreciate.* A currently available *end-in-itself*

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9/1/2022
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andrew 🌹 (applications close Dec 20!)@__drewface• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman This is awesome. I'm really excited for a positive vision about where you (and people like you) should go from here. Write the essay, then write the book. Much love ā¤ļø

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9/1/2022
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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

@__drewface šŸ™

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9/1/2022
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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman this is beautiful. at a minimum, i appreciate it as a cautionary tale: "I extrapolated the implications of this... I went from being the happiest person I knew to eventually wanting to end my life."

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9/2/2022
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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@TylerAlterman "This returns me to the problem of turning ends into means. In practice, when I turn ends into things that are primarily instruments for other ends – rather than engaging them for their own sake – I engage them in lower-quality ways."hey its me https://t.co/2xUYIYpVD8

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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago

ok i think i am burning out on trying to be intentional in my relationships. it is important but i need to chill and channel some of this energy https://t.co/RbXcSC2Wec

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9/2/2022
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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@TylerAlterman What's interesting is that my journey first took me to traveling, where turning it into a means sapped the joy from it. I see it starting to happen in turning relationships into means in front of me

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9/2/2022
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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@TylerAlterman IME going too HAM on an end is what turns it into a means - for you, EA; for me, travel, and i'm finding myself now looking into the ends->means event horizon for relationships and EA. since i've transformed my life into capacity building to superblast into ends of my choosing

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9/2/2022
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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@TylerAlterman i respect how you were able to dive straight into "help" as meaning. i needed to take a more selfish route first to sufficiently free myself of self coercion to notice and accept it as a legitimate moral desire

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9/2/2022
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Johnson (Seattle Oct-Nov, Taiwan Dec-)@justavagrant_• over 3 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@TylerAlterman anyways all of this to say that your essay was very moving and helped me realize and contextualize a lot of things in myself, so thank you <3

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9/2/2022
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Imp@imperialauditor• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman This is truly lovely, Tyler ā¤ļø thank you for writing it down

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9/2/2022
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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @imperialauditor

@imperialauditor šŸ™

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9/2/2022
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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibels• over 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman wow great writing! the sunbeam on the cheek is šŸ‘ŒšŸ‘ŒšŸ‘Œ wild that it's so easy to become the Terminator when you fix your attention on preventing AI Terminators

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels https://t.co/C1yhVWcq9T

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• over 3 years ago

In the 21st century there arose a hyperrational general intelligence that would operationalize available resources (eg money, people) into convergently instrumental goods to be deployed for utility. It did not value the beings it consumed for parts except as means to an end.

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibels• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@TylerAlterman hey look at this, I think I stole your line subconsciously! from a piece I published last week: https://t.co/VSHJNg6bAX https://t.co/WW7eV5Zq6r

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Tyler Alterman is in monkmode (but still tweeting)@TylerAlterman• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels mwahaha

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12/30/2022
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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibels• almost 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman I must have really liked it

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12/30/2022