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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

When someone expresses a thought like “I’m worthless”, the default response seems to be something like “no you’re not!”, but I think it’s actually better to ask “is that bad?”

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

“Yes of course it’s bad! I’m worthless!” Oh. Why is that bad

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

the point really is to ask a bunch of questions from a place of genuine curiosity to get the person to express the internal tangles they’ve got that are making them feel like shit because it’s possible to say “yo I’m delightfully worthless and I’m having a great time 😎”

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

a phrase like “you are worthy” might seem like it’s meant to be reassuring, and it can be, but it can actually subtly perpetuate this endless paranoia that’s grasping for moral worth. which isnt necessarily bad either. It’s all quite silly, can you see 😅

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

it’s not the label that’s the issue but what the label represents to the person, and underneath the mouth-sound or glyph of ordered symbols is an emotional felt-sense. “I’m worthless” IME is often giftwrap packaging for “I feel despair, alienated, shunned, isolated”

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

now those are things that are much more addressable with direct intervention! but only once the person gets out of their head and lets go of their psychic grip on their imaginary scale. as long as they’re focused on the wrapping, they’ll misdiagnose the problem, and struggle

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

And to a substantial degree, I think people sometimes deliberately use misdiagnoses as avoidance, as cope, because accurate diagnoses can be painful to face. But if it’s the truth, you can bear it, because you are already bearing it https://t.co/jZuQSJ7uFW

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 4 years ago

Thank you Mario! But the root of our problem is in another castle!

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

(also sometimes misdiagnoses happen by accident, random noise, all sorts of nonsense, although even here I think when they stick, there are often broader systemic reasons in culture)

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

also even “I feel worthless” is often further giftwrapped in apathy, boredom, etc. a matryoshka of copes. (and copes are not intrinsically bad! they simply are) https://t.co/wbSm8Yj4Mh

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

i'm reflecting on how layered it is 1. there's some desire in ur heart 2. follow it, get burned. pain 3. create a barrier around the desire, lock it up 4. now feel cold, desolate 5. feel bad abt cold 6. beat self up for feeling bad 7. detach 8. ugh why am i so bored & listless

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Anyway I wrote a whole book @introspectvv about this, got a whole tattoo about this, see my pinned tweet to see what ppl think about it 🌀👀

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

was searching for something unrelated and found this exchange where some kid was like “pls tell me I won’t always be an anxious dumbass” and i was like “I hope you’ll always be one!!” https://t.co/ygJxyBteli

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

Really though, I love talking to younger people. They have a way of asking you questions that I forget to ask myself. My friends are like, “yo, are you gonna have kids soon or nah” (😂) while kids are like “Visa how do I find meaning and purpose in this cruel world?” ❤️ https://t.co/oWlg0Cl47E

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

similar thread the powerful thing is acceptance https://t.co/3CcNgEVrSz

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 4 years ago

the first step to cease being an unintegrated wannabe is to accept that you are one, and will always be one. and to see the beauty, humor, joy and humility in that

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv had a similar thought seeing a bag of chips recently labeled "reduced guilt." in using that marketing they actually perpetuate and reinfoce the association between eating chips and guilt, it's a whole thing

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan exactly same for dove’s marketing around beauty and body-positivity etc it’s bananas it’s all bananas

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Oops! All Bananas

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