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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

I am tired. Yet I am going to the gym. Why? > What's confusing about it? Why am I choosing to do something difficult? > Why indeed?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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Because it is easier. It feels worth going along with. > Compare to what? Going to sleep. Or trying to work. > What's wrong with those? Going to sleep . . . just doesn’t feel. Hypothetically it’s easier but . . . > But?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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But I don’t want to! I’d still be scared and stressed and unhappy. What’s the point? > What does going to the gym feel like? At least it feels worthy!

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Worthy? Like good. Calming. The rest feels like playing a losing game with the devil that I don’t want to play. Going to the gym feels like playing a virtuous game with god.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> What’s the game with the devil? Some sort of abstract never-ending race to keep up and do all my work and never have free time and also somehow have free time. > Sounds underspecified. Yeah.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> What’s the other game, the one with god? It starts with nothing. There just is, what is, and from there I'm just continuously building.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> You're saying it has no expectations. Yes. There no I should do this or not, no I should know how to do this or shouldn't. There's just what is now, and what calls to be done. https://t.co/Td2m5XwgbB

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

Of all the productivity things I ever discovered, this is by far the #1. There is no knowing how to do the task or not knowing. There is just doing. What is done and what is not. https://t.co/WX2EiFPSzC

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> What about just resting? My body would still hurt. My mind would still hurt that I am not doing everything I wanted to this week. > What about trying to work? It feels torturous. I don't want to.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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Both feel like they’re coming from this place of expectation. This same place of negotiation with the devil.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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“Ah yes, I will sleep, so I may not fall behind later. I work, so I may not fall behind later. I rest, so I may somehow get better and not fall behind later.” https://t.co/MJ3dsu4br7

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

it’s not that i won’t fall behind in the race. it’s that maybe that race was worth falling behind on. https://t.co/cKVwQHPyqE

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> But? But all are losing games. > Losing games? Yeah, they don’t feel good. They don’t know, they don’t ever; not even when I am “ahead”—there’s always something more I could be doing.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Do you even have specific work in mind, or the abstract concept of work? Oh . . . abstract. When I think of specific, I'm suddenly motivated to work.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> So there is the game of god and the game of the devil. Yes. The game of god only understands what is done and not done. It only understands what is the call of the next thing to be done.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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It is seamless, it is benevolent, it makes me feel autonomous and magnanimous and kind and humble. It makes me feel humble in the face of the universe, but not obligated to anyone.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> What is the game of the devil? It is the game of expectations. It is the game set by parents, authorities. It is the game where I feel small and dislikable; if anyone liked me, it's because I had them fooled, became I don’t like me; I am critical.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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I am exhausting to be around. https://t.co/2clkriB4wb

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

My brain: “I’m judging every move I make 100% of the time.” No wonder it can be exhausting to be around me.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Let’s go back to sleeping. What did you say about it earlier? I don't want to fall asleep. It feels forced. Like I'm forcing myself to rest and sleep, in this limited time, so I wake up and . . . > And?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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But I just don’t care about it! WHY SHOULD I SLEEP?? I’d still be unhappy! > Sounds like there’s a should there. Yeah, that I should sleep, if I’m not working, so as to save time.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Sounds very much like the game of the devil Yah. When I’m playing the game of the devil, there is no happy; not really. The best is something more like: just being relieved. Temporarily, of the pressure. That’s what I thought happiness was for a while https://t.co/y0baTX4N1a

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

With the worrying mind, when I accomplish achievements, there’s a sort of of hollow pleasure that I previously mapped as “victory! this is good.” Really, it was more like “relief” than “pleasure.” https://t.co/M3k1Bvj4ed

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Might there be another reason to sleep? Yeah. If I'm just planning to enjoy it. [makes me smile] I'd be happy to just enjoy that way. I'd enjoy that just as much as going to the gym. > They’re both playing the game of god.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Which one would you prefer? They’re both pleasurable. [🤔] At that point, I wouldn’t mind choosing the gym, just because it works out slightly better for my future. > Why 🤔? It’s weird to call going to the gym pleasurable. > That’s the confusion you started with, innit?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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Yeah. It’s just weird. > What’s weird about it? It's just . . . for the longest time I thought I wasn’t supposed to hurt myself. > Reminds me of: https://t.co/b5RzByBOhz

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

2. I should not allow myself to do anything I don’t want to. If I am doing that, I am somehow mortally wounding myself by making my “happiness” or “success at life” score drop. https://t.co/gdcCNdgrCH

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Not hurt yourself? Yeah. Like I could do sometime painful if it was novel, developed mastery, or something else. But that’s about it. If I allowed myself to get more pain than that, then I was doing someone wrong. https://t.co/uB9l4TNBlU

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

“Putting myself outside my comfort zone” and “competition” and “sense of mastery” were all great motivators that would make great physical discomfort feel okay.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> You were literally afraid of pain. Yeah. Or not even. I was afraid of doing the wrong thing by causing pain. Pain was bad. Pain meant I'd made the bad decision 😣

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Ouch. That seemed visceral Yeah!! 😢😭😭😢😢 [lots of crying] I just wanted to make the right decision. https://t.co/pEyhZmXRcf

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

And to be clear, just lying on my bed, trying to pick up the waterbottle, not being sure if I should, feels 𝘦𝘹𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘺 bad. It’s one of the worst things I can experience, worse than a lot of physical pain. My mind torments me more than anything else can. https://t.co/chQa90Almm

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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What’s more is I don't think people get this. I don't think this is something communicable, and so it barely feels real. > It seems really fucking real, personally, being you, and knowing your head, and knowing this is exactly the kind of thing that would pain you.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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Should I buy a $2 water bottle? Or not? Both just hurt so much. I just wanted to get the decision right, but I wouldn't, couldn't. https://t.co/kIQcdjSGiU

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

Even just tolerating even the brief discomfort of getting out of my bed was enough to activate this huge mashup of grinding. This is what I mean by everything in my life felt high-stakes. https://t.co/dzsvJWrdjv https://t.co/hScp5XRq0o

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> That thread you wrote that you've been quoting from like 4-5, it may just be one of the most important ones you've written. Yeah, like this one. https://t.co/2clkriB4wb

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

My brain: “I’m judging every move I make 100% of the time.” No wonder it can be exhausting to be around me.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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Both feel like crazy-making. Both literally feel *insane* to talk about loud. Both also are literally 24/7 my experience so I can't deny it either. https://t.co/W1hDRIS3af

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago

how to explain: like u don’t understand how anyone else could be living this way (the way u are living in your head) they would literally have to be crazy for that

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> Not so much anymore. No, not since last year. There’s been other ways of being. And it's been documented here.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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> You're finding words to describe the structure of your experience. Yeah, I always thought it was crazy-making.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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But yesterday a girl described to me she'd never told anyone this before, but if she in a McDonald’s, and a guy walked in, she’d try to make sure she was attractive to him, and she felt crazy for that.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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And her case is one of the more common ones, I imagine. > So what? If she feels crazy . . . and actually her experience is relatable and common, maybe mine is too. > Maybe. If anyone reads this. Hello future me. I love you for writing these.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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I don't know if you would have dared to articulate any of this otherwise. Without this weird “Start tweet”, finish 280 characters, link other teeth, “Add tweet to thread,” “Hit publish” buttons. https://t.co/uCRWDrqdRR

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

This is my private journal, and I don’t know why a 1000 people are reading it. Including you, my future employer. Why? What did you think you were doing to find here?? Did my thread on dating yourself help you? I’m so glad. Do you want to check out horney meditation too? https://t.co/BdI6nS6B5R

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 4 years ago
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Your stories may be wrong, but they are trying to *make real* to your heady self parts of your experience that already were real. You're bringing your head and body more into sync, so you can move together.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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hi past me ❤️ reading these today so many of these were unliked but i loved the thread. it felt important (hi even more future me)

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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this is the context from today https://t.co/lWSHVKPG6C

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago

and if staying up till 4am is the problem, creating a smooth gradient to “it’s ok and fine to sleep now” is part of the solution

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