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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

A lot of conversations in my head recently have been like: 😖: fuck fuck fuck i really should go running. i feel crappy and i know they me feel better 🙆‍♀️: oh?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

😖: but i can’t can’t can’t guarantee i’ll go running every day, i didn’t yesterday, im never going to make it a habit, i know it 🙆‍♀️: you’re . . . freaking out a lot 😅: [briefly smiles] ikr???

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

🙆‍♀️: ok, try this. all of this talk about running sure sounds a lot like your internalised super-ego 🙆‍♀️: we agreed to not really give a f about that anymore, right? the super-ego was kind of dead to us. internalised voices of other people saying “if we don’t do X, we’ll die 😖”

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

🙆‍♀️: that we realised we don’t believe 😄: yeah!! we came to that conclusion safely & kindly. we could all agree on this 🙆‍♀️: ok . . . so how about we don’t care about it and you let me talk to you about what you really believe 🤔: well . . . https://t.co/LeiQh6D1RU

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

this not a kind way to live 👇, and i don’t want to live that way anymore https://t.co/rawQtm8Or9

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

🙆‍♀️: what do you want? 😮: well, i’d really like to go running 🙆‍♀️: why? ☺️: it makes me happy, and my brain clear-headed, and makes me like everything 🙆‍♀️: . . . want me to help you make sure we go running today?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

😅: yes! that’d be great, thank you . . [relieved] 😔: it’s just . . . [wince] . . . it can be so hard to remember what i want . . . [wince] . . . when that super-ego part is yelling in my ear about what needs to be done, and then i feel sad, & confused, & don’t know what i want

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

🙆‍♀️: you got it, babe. i get you 🙆‍♀️: it didn’t feel safe for you to override parts of your brain, till you’d really understood on some high-level, how it was safe to, because your thoughts and brain were all you had ☹️: yeahh . . . https://t.co/HDK1aJe2Al

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

It’s worth not psy-op’ing these neurotic nerds [psy-op = get people to distrust their native trust mechanisms] by yelling “JUST BE” “YOU’RE THE PROBLEM” “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SELF-COERCION.” They might temporarily feel better, but the ecological homeostasis will return.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

🙆‍♀️: and it feels really safe, now that you can — just let go of thoughts about the past and future and this and that, without resolving them, and return to the truth & clarity of this moment, of what you want 😊: hell yeah!! 🙆‍♀️: and what you want rn is to go running, right?

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

😀: yes! 🙆‍♀️: so let’s go . . first we get out stuff cleaned, and . . .— that’s how it goes

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

What I’m learning to do is tease apart my ego & super-ego. I grew up with a very hyper-developed sense of super-ego. - Always a sense of the right thing to be done - Very little connection with what *I want* to do. https://t.co/miKVtBS5GN

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

having a hyper-developed super-ego and under-developed ego is the definition of a Rules person always looking for the right thing to do little connection with what they actually want https://t.co/aV0QXy0k23

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

It led me to be a very neurotic person, always questioning what I’m doing, and having second thoughts, and third-order thoughts. Everything getting passed through the sieve & filter of “Is this right? Is this what is supposed to be happening?” https://t.co/bZvkgmA3KI

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

@CountJ0ecool THANK YOU FOR articulating this. “People don’t think about you as much as you do. They don’t think about you at all.” *meanwhile judging everyone in the room and myself a lot on everything they’re doing

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

What’s amazing to me about this kind of conversation is how kind it felt. The unkind thing to do—and the advice I heard all my life—was to JUST DO IT> 🧘‍♂️: just let go of thinking 🏋️‍♂️: just go lifting but why?? did it feel safe to do that? https://t.co/Ap7eCUsPRf

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

Phrase considered harmful: ”Just do it.”

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

I needed to not psy-op myself into “fuhgedding about it” like a normie might be comfortable doing. I really, really wanted to know if what I was doing was the right thing to be doing. https://t.co/HOFrusKv14

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

Where normies are fine just picking an action, neurotic nerds have a really strong expectation that the conflict shouldn’t be there, and there should be some sort of resolution. They’re so sensitive to internal expectation error they start whole Twitter communities about coercion

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

I don’t blame the “JUST DO IT” advicers. It works for a lot of ppl. It didn’t for me. It just made me cry more on the inside My problem wasn’t that I couldnt “JUST DO IT” My problem was I’d been “JUST DOING IT” whtvr my super-ego told me was the right thing to do my entire life

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

What was kind was helping me move from where my existing trust function was. My existing trust function was: I needed to know what I was doing was right. So I helped myself come to an understanding of what was going on that made it feel safe to ignore my super-ego parts.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

Once that felt safe, I could just vibe . . . But if it didn’t feel safe, goddamit—it could at best be a performance of vibing. https://t.co/MTkNDh8WZk

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

Compare with connecting with someone who’s just vibing. Unconsciously chill, and they just . . . inspire a companionate simplicity.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

So I came to this high-level consent in my system, that is was OKAY to let go of the super-ego parts, and once it was, I could do it. Otherwise, *I AM LITERALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING MY HIGH-LEVEL SYSTEM HAS NOT CONSENTED TO DO* because everyone is saying to do it. https://t.co/3Tr92hLYp7

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

“I’m a 9.” “Oh, ok, let’s go with your opinion then.” What just happened? It’s incredible. A laser-fast decision, WITHOUT sitting down and resolving all objections. Yet done non-coercively.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

That is not cool. https://t.co/lc8tkd4qFJ

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

Meditation doesn’t work (letting go of thought) if you don’t on some level WANT to let go of thought, aren’t bought in.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

One of my biggest talking points is that it is cruel to try to get yourself to understand something in a way that bypasses your trust mechanisms. https://t.co/zzf1Qyn6hV

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

It’s cruel to ask someone to get something in a way that bypasses their trust mechanisms.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

People in the past didn’t know how to explain it to you that way, but it’s okay. It’s dumb to try to brutalise yourself with more Rules if you are already a Rules person. You have no other way to relate to advice like “JUST DO IT” or “just let go.” https://t.co/BQdIENyPpa

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

Trial-by-fire is awesome, but ALSO it can lead to overly rigid people just brutalising themselves more with more sense of Rules, in a way that can be gentler, more deft, and more expansive. https://t.co/XGUtpudYlw

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

Hopefully I’m plugging in one of the holes for you, like I am for me, about *why it’s okay* to let go super-ego parts, so you can consent to it, so you can do it, whole-heartedly, without drama.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

before: felt unsafe to override a part now: high-level consent all this possible because i had a SAFE meeting where i realised super-ego voice i didn’t identify with and felt good letting go off

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