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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

Violence and abuse megathread https://t.co/unf1K6imhF

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8/8/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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https://t.co/0Ajh9ZWDkx

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

Violence?? What does some cheerful soccer mum in a suburb have anything to do with violence?? This is the great comforting illusion of the factory-farm-zoo-circus-prison of civilisation. Violence, and the threat of it (incarceration, etc) is how we enforce rules and boundaries

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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https://t.co/cDLww0ScMB

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

Saw a boy playing with a toy balloon gun a few days ago and it’s still on my mind - thinking about kids playing cops and robbers, and our cultural concepts of / relationship with violence and the tools of violence

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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The present state of gender relations has a long and violent history https://t.co/lINcfrmvmw

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

@priya_ebooks the standards suck soooo bad it's literally civilization-level gaslighting the standards were never agreed upon via collective negotiation, they were enforced by violence and then prettied up with cultural PR

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Since people have imaginations, you don’t need to enact violence on every individual in order to keep them in line https://t.co/d33s5qnPjF

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

@vgr Hmm. Humans do have some imagination, so wr don't quite need individualized physical mutilation - we use institutionalized violence. Ie the chickens that peck get thrown into chicken jail and made an example of, and everyone learns to psychologically debeak themselves

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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https://t.co/O0oVfG2Kt8

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

Horrible story about an abusive, selfish, jealous asshole of a professor who sabotaged his student's career. She was too scared, guilty, pessimistic to fight back, even though it was absolutely not her fault. This is so hideous https://t.co/XTC6ijWZkt

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Abusers rely on having environments that facilitate (or at least fail to impede) their abuse https://t.co/bICLmIN2fW

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 8 years ago

@GammerInc @sharanvkaur Problem with "crimes of a few" is that implies that these men operate in isolation. That's not how this works, I'm afraid. We are social creatures. Abusers rely on having an environment that facilitates their abuse. Who's responsible for fixing the environment, if not us?

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Imperfect reactions to provocations are often punished more than the actual provocation. Smart abusers push their victims‘ buttons and then pretend to be the real victim https://t.co/DMBTze0VW3

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

I was 16 when Zidane headbutted Matarazzi, and I didn’t care about it all that much then. But it’s actually such a fascinating story. “The referees always punish the reaction, never the provocation.” Now contemplating the playbook of retaliation to abuse https://t.co/sR2JiPdm6x

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Contempt https://t.co/fkcacpjLOZ

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

Of course, not everybody has this option. Contemptuous, manipulative abusers often design their abuse carefully to make their victims powerless, angry, upset, emotional, overwhelmed, “irrational”, etc, then use all of that against them. Hideously cruel

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Breaking a cycle of abuse is heroic; Cinderella was a hero https://t.co/hRaMVq8pFL

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

Cinderella can seem like a boring story on the surface – the interesting part of the story is what didn’t happen. She didn’t allow her experience to turn her into a bitter, angry person. It’s a story about breaking the cycle of abuse

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Free-for-all public commons quickly get dominated by abuse https://t.co/9cjHsLTqqy

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

The people who give me grief for talking publicly about the utility of safe spaces are seldom the ones who are publicly open and vulnerable about their worries, doubts, concerns. A free-for-all public commons, without moderation, often quickly gets dominated by abuse and contempt

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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It’s difficult to know in advance who will turn out to be abusive, because smart abusers are manipulative and scheming https://t.co/ljDsZSjCbb

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago

Why do they care who the fragile dudes are? Fragile dudes are potentially dangerous. They’re the ones who get contemptuous, who abuse and attack. It is perfectly sensible for women to be wary of fragile dudes. #NotAllMen, sure, but you can’t tell in advance who’ll murder you

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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We often praise people for tolerating abuse but criticise them when they speak up against it https://t.co/CsIW5PyOs7

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

@Nouronal I've corroborated similar stories with minority friends and women friends – there's this ideal of us being all cool and zen and being able to just sidestep abuse. But then what is being done to stop the abuse? The moment we speak up, we're "too sensitive". THE GAME IS RIGGED

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Tough balancing act: you don’t want to encourage victims of abuse to make their victimhood the centerpiece of their identity, but you don’t want to trivialize and dismiss the abuse either https://t.co/xLSHNrB3fN

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

@priya_ebooks yup. people don't know how to deal with boys/men saying "X happened to me", and are exceedingly quick to respond with some sort of laugh track or equivalent – almost seems to me sometimes like they actually think they're doing boys a favor by trivializing the abuse

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Abusers seek out untrustworthy targets because they’re likelier to get away with it; ie “nobody’s gonna believe you” https://t.co/l74AyOnRZW

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

@sonyaellenmann @AnkurRSharma @vgr I don't have an informed opinion on this person's trustworthiness... funnily(?), you (who I trust) saying they're not trustworthy actually reinforces my (provisional) belief that she's likely receiving abuse, because abusers seek out untrustworthy targets

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Abuse is a cycle https://t.co/Kqs7kMOpGJ

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

Many men are constantly roleplaying, trying to be manly enough to escape abuse. Part of this roleplay entails abusing others. (Think of gang initiations, where newbies are expected/coerced to rob, hurt, kill, etc. Seems extreme, but this is the model of manhood for many men)

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Lots of abusive people use “I lost control” or “I wasn’t thinking” as a defence, yet have lines they won’t cross (revealing an internal system of beliefs about justified degrees of abuse) https://t.co/0gCoPVIVRO

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 8 years ago

@Armonah_ @priya_ebooks There's a quote I think about a lot: how domestic abusers say "they weren't thinking", but typically have some line they won't cross (which demonstrates they mostly have an internalized system of what's an acceptable level of abuse to inflict on their partners)

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Calling out abuse is costly https://t.co/3hyxIaADwH

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8/8/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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https://t.co/litaj5tqWI

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8/9/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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Many people live their entire lives without this https://t.co/EExFBAgFCX

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8/11/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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https://t.co/N2inlCGGrU

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8/15/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• about 7 years ago
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https://t.co/wmZIdMNnz8

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9/2/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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"your duty as someone further along will always be to productively process the pain forged by others, for you must own the hefty responsibility of one who nurtures an empathetic perspective on the viral nature of trauma itself" https://t.co/FX0OweOv7c

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9/20/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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when you apologize, the focus should be on the person you hurt https://t.co/T6RjxaDPqA

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9/20/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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25. https://t.co/DdxUea7gwC

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9/21/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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26. https://t.co/lj1qiOI1A5

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9/22/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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27. #WhyIDidntReport

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9/22/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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28. https://t.co/ApUfDeh0pX

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9/26/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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29. Leaving an abusive relationship can be fatal https://t.co/h4gNiUPKD5

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10/12/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• almost 7 years ago
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30. Honest emotional introspection https://t.co/xuaz88Q70j

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11/21/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
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31. public declarations https://t.co/bbXeHtw6Nf

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12/15/2018
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
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32. https://t.co/AyN5SPDjxA

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3/17/2019
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
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33. people-pleasers and the fawn response https://t.co/IfkazZDiXj

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4/9/2019