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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

Which kind of meat will we see hit the mainstream consumer market first (and actually scale)?

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5/13/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

VR Chickens: https://t.co/fhIntGmbb2Lab Grown: https://t.co/fLhgMgpe6c Plant Based: https://t.co/Tn7kJ2DYTj

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5/13/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I tried finding that VR game PETA did about chickens, but no luck.Here's a game where you scream at them instead: https://t.co/Z1fCuKah0T

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5/13/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I am not good at screaming chickens game. https://t.co/4LYR34lTgH

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5/13/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
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"... aren’t really treated as animals, [...] they’re machines that transform vegetable inputs into chicken breasts."https://t.co/WzKvLeDVTP

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5/13/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That popsci article is good. 3d printed meat sounds cool. https://t.co/ibaMPLMRMC

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5/13/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Researching chicken is making me not want to eat anything ever again.https://t.co/QfKSGKIFDQ

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5/15/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Seriously though, track record of large scale industry production of meats is disturbing: https://t.co/QLB9FbACE7Why I want local DIY opts.

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5/15/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Is my strange obsession with DIY / decentralized production just a way of tackling the "Skin in the Game" issue? https://t.co/mFd9u4COaH

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

Did you know that "Skin in the Game" can be rederived by reading Plato's thought experiement on the Ring of Gyges?https://t.co/purS6gHEI2 https://t.co/s5mXGnPE2N

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5/15/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Whoa, my insights on the topic were wrong.It wasn't plantae 🌾replacing animalia 🐣at scale, but lab grown fungi 🍄https://t.co/52ohwF0Kef https://t.co/wRhwsEa7HJ

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5/26/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I should have known fungus tech was mature already for something to take off in the consumer market with branding like this suggests... 🤑 https://t.co/a66TjqqTzU

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'd bet money stuff would take off if it weren't caught in a game of high-level politics & collusion about branding.https://t.co/EGqT2J1Fvs

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

Whoa, my insights on the topic were wrong.It wasn't plantae 🌾replacing animalia 🐣at scale, but lab grown fungi 🍄https://t.co/52ohwF0Kef https://t.co/wRhwsEa7HJ

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

You can't call it a corn/chicken just like you can't call it mayo...?https://t.co/Btqac46wKk(but TBH, that may just be counter-signaling)

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Why [x] replacement fails: embroiled within cost-sink of existing [x] industries branding wars? Blue sky that shit. https://t.co/32Gv41sLDz

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

Why @chapul? They are basically doing what I would (wanted) to do. https://t.co/1wAlY2BmfR

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Starting a new food industry? Avoid taking investor money from those who'll push you to "disrupt" existing market - its full of wolves.

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Problem w/ new food products is needing investors, but they have no risk appetite. Can't see past the fat markets.https://t.co/CCbmo222aB

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 9 years ago

"It’s too early to define the exact shape of this latest iteration of capitalism" [2012]https://t.co/hp5au6oIvH https://t.co/iFWBACw70q

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

If you're scratching head why Soylent has taken off, you're not paying attention. The crowd is sick of being at the whims of big grocery.

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

It's about fear.A fear of being lied to.It's about suspicions of brands.Desire to be control of what we forage.https://t.co/b4qqfI8Zvz

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

@trengriffin ah yeah, thats what I'm thinking of... how brands create moats via ‘social proof’ (trust/reputation) https://t.co/aoTuqbOjVF

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The successful ones target that fear not by showing you a mirror, but by giving you power. DIY soylent = ecosystem.https://t.co/7hlJjd2Lzp

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 9 years ago

Why ecosystems vs moats?Ecosystems naturally attract pollinators whose contributions grow the resiliency of the whole. 🐜🐝🦋🐞🦀🌺

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Have you tried changing the game until the problem goes away? ☀https://t.co/RaYU7aocUm

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 9 years ago

I don't care what side you are on. You can't fight a ill fitting system by playing the same game. You have to change the game.

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Wonder why @pmarca keeps saying that the scare articles about Soylent boost sales? It's reminding people of fear: https://t.co/1EIeUFjtCw

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

The successful ones target that fear not by showing you a mirror, but by giving you power. DIY soylent = ecosystem.https://t.co/7hlJjd2Lzp

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

TL;DR: the swarm eventually learns to route around parasites.Efficient market hypothesis, but generalized? https://t.co/DdRIs1RdKQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

@nntaleb @excapite interestingly, at high levels of traffic the human swarm learns around bad planning by removing a route: https://t.co/naddZZ1xB6

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"The adaptive-markets hypothesis [...] suggests that the market develops in a manner akin to evolution."https://t.co/kpy3lwdzUT

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Answered my own question....Yeshttps://t.co/wo3vf7dxlH

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

Is my strange obsession with DIY / decentralized production just a way of tackling the "Skin in the Game" issue? https://t.co/mFd9u4COaH

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5/27/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• about 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Soylent is the swarm speaking to itself.https://t.co/mO1Cq2S6nH

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 8 years ago

The time-poor Precariat (millennial) has been eating out more - trading $ for time. This would save them money.https://t.co/GwBIDEdCS6

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9/4/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• about 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Let's centralize the industry of food production; what could go wrong?https://t.co/ZmG2thtynO via @WIREDScience https://t.co/ueyiZGBldu

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9/6/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• about 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Let's centralize the industry of food production; what could go wrong?https://t.co/w26xlAUGGu via @vgr https://t.co/6OvukIe3r5

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9/6/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
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"Instead of preventing a problem, it was like putting kerosene on a blaze." 🐔+🔥=🤮+🍗https://t.co/4b5IshBeq4 https://t.co/l7a20MaXyv

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

How can we destabilize the incentives that have farmers & industrial butchers pumping chickens full of antibiotics for short term gains?

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The externalities of this practice don't appear to be borne on farmers/factories themselves. Regulations will just move production overseas.

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Just like problem w/ antibiotics: punishing farmers who put antibiotics in chickens only serves to boost those who subvert the punishment. 🤔

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

One possible answer: instead of creating a chaotic feedback loop, we instead domesticate the germs themselves?https://t.co/ndikByj9Cr

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago

Can we domesticate Germs? [2007]https://t.co/SUw4SIDtQh

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Another answer is localize supply chain more: the externalities are more directly felt and can be adapted quicker.https://t.co/jxWvmKM4LL

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 8 years ago

Redecentralize; but for the supply chain and distribution networks? Yes please.https://t.co/seTrvU0ZDe

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Also potential of globalized supply chain tracking that might give power back to the consumer thru transparency.https://t.co/vQGhbZJuhs

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 8 years ago

Blockchain is the easy part. Hard:"is setting up technology for farmers, field workers and others to collect data"https://t.co/c3amxbx5ep https://t.co/oVN2kABxwI

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9/10/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
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"If it seems unnatural to grow meat in a mineral culture, one should re-examine how meat is produced today."https://t.co/UBo521Mpts

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9/11/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

https://t.co/GldbOInNXr

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 8 years ago

No longer needing to share information on foraging locations due to industrialized farming, the stranded mammal succumbs to infotainment. https://t.co/2qAoi355Im

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9/14/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Let's centralize the industry of food production; what could go wrong?https://t.co/AM8iOWs8GF https://t.co/IwaRqRRtsW

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9/16/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

15 mil calories per acre -> 3 mil calories worth of meat & dairy.The rest? Cow farts & car explosions.https://t.co/hRuxODwo7x

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago

JERF they exclaim! While stuffing their gobs w/ domesticated vegetables & tamed chicken meat; contributing to runoffhttps://t.co/IqvaDyPjOc

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9/16/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Let's centralize the industry of food production; what could go wrong?https://t.co/52XOCaJRA2 https://t.co/NNbgAWtEb3

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9/30/2017
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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago
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Let's centralize the industry of food production; what could go wrong? We could lose chocolate due to ant fungus. 😱 https://t.co/YE4hdykiYk https://t.co/CV1AB2kT7y

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10/14/2017