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Science Banana@literalbanana• over 1 year ago

https://t.co/bgLgFYDGpo

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Emmett Shear@eshear• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana This is fnord the most fnord ridiculous fnord study I’ve ever seen referenced.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @literalbanana

@literalbanana 🔥🥹https://t.co/CnecMDuvcQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 2 years ago

Imagine going thru life not having an accurate model of social disgust pathways cuz no one bothered to*checks notes*Directly replicate social psych studies.https://t.co/lyfkTODD4e

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Mesmerism is real. If not how else could Mesmer have made someone cough up blood by his presence alone? 😇😈https://t.co/ZKkb6NFMml

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

This is saying that that Mesmer guy's method of action was by sight and touch, which impacted the gut as a "a veritable nervous center connected to all other parts of hte body."And that he was causing people to shit shit themselves! WTFhttps://t.co/6ahh4XZQhC https://t.co/QjzI0SvwTi

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana I want to believe (That this is really about gut bacteria and scent based communication impact those with sensitive CNS).But so many people swear they can read minds...https://t.co/9fGSoyv1yk

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

To disprove Mesmer's theory of animal magnetism they basically proved faith healing via spectacle and mind-over-matter /mentalism is real?That's hilarious.https://t.co/31wlzf7z1Ihttps://t.co/U6fUVXIbTP https://t.co/SKodzSnSQU

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Thought broadcasting radio."Thought broadcasting is most commonly found among people who have a psychotic disorder, specifically schizophrenia."https://t.co/I923ZbUtnOEyesight television.https://t.co/bAoh1IZ44R

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 5 years ago

"Now, the whole world can truly LOOK AT THE PICTURE and SEE THE SKULL (and the part of bone removed)" — FEDhttps://t.co/n2W97pvnGI

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Either ~1500 people are schizophrenic, you can actually implant memories in people, hypnosis is real, or Mesmer was able to use animal magnetism to make people shit themselves in his presence.I'm not sure, but I have my own theory.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana You know those hysterical contagious dancing phenomena? I figured out how it works and can probably induce it in people. I think Hysterical contagion is biochemical. I even found someone who exhibits symptoms I predicted like being able to see UV and believes in energy healing.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana May or may not be working on hysterical mass shitting event for reason having to do with science.https://t.co/zptX5dd1xp

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 3 years ago

Trying to figure out how to make people spontaneously shit themselves, for reason.https://t.co/CAEbXt0G5O

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana You can just take all these weird psych studies and play them against each other to find contradictions.Makes people mad.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Anyway. Did you know serotonin helps modulate the sensitivity of the smooth muscle sensor in people's colons? It also change disgust response?

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Turns out personality is mostly gut bacteria producing neurochemicals."Serotonin depletion amplifies distinct human social emotions as a function of individual differences in personality"https://t.co/NDTpPWC62c

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana A good hypnotist can smell their victims.https://t.co/5MP3ACg0Sq

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 3 years ago

"Gut microbiome composition and diversity are related to human personality traits"Openness and Social network size are positively correlated with gut diversity.https://t.co/WxUF2mnx5J https://t.co/Uap2PXVSmv

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana This is all imminently testable with basic brain scanning and gut microbe assays.https://t.co/E7K6eCtfJp

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

@VitalikButerin @vgr When stuff like brain wearables are able to measure Insula functioning + measure disgust we might be able to test predictions. This one of the reasons why I am interested in Robert Sapolsky' work exploring primate vs. human social reasoning.https://t.co/Q855OyZ4tA

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana It's amazing what you can do if you doubt the dogma.https://t.co/iNMIXgB8Ks

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 3 years ago

@humanworkplace It seems humans have co-opted our immune system's framing of dietary disgust to also be used as a way to sense social disgust.I learned that when people have a gut feeling, there is a literal sense of grossness & gagging that some people get. https://t.co/V6YROVTVV9

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana You can smell someone's immune system shift. Pair this with other senses and now you have a way to train someone into thinking you got sick eating a bad food.People call this hypnosis for some reason; they wanna believe they can broadcast their thoughts.https://t.co/sPoFYUHRW5

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@chrisdancy The current research on sound detection of health is really shaky - they tested it on unfamiliar people and didn't measure actual behavioral or immune responses, just surveys. These would overlook localized training and miss subtle synesthetic responses.https://t.co/cAdNxoNcjh

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana I have disproven the HAIDT of disgust and i've never read his work lmao. I guessed. GUESSED the paper's author. ;)https://t.co/vvqX5jsOgQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@pmarca I suspect it will replicate, but they have the model wrong.Why are rural populations, with higher rates of disorders tied to gut dysbiosis also associated lower IQ, less openness traits and higher disgust response to outgroup?We may never know.https://t.co/PBN7dzZM88

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Hypnotism: My Ass :: Disgust Response: Muh AutismEvery time.https://t.co/eCBQBvWaP6 https://t.co/bR3X4cMUDB

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UltimApe@ultimape• almost 8 years ago

@jordanbpeterson @JonHaidt I think there's a missing axis to this discussion - I react to the air blown in my ear & food disgust (per https://t.co/gQoM0l9Ujh), but I don't manifest the same group fealty effect or hierarchy and don't seem to fit in with left or right. Can't figure out why.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Lobstershttps://t.co/lQ9zGBcukS

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago

@Meaningness It's fascinating how much violent behavior correlates with serotonin, and how much serotonin is made by the gut.Muh lobster.https://t.co/RgZKW6y8SA

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana My food disgust response shifted quite dramatically when I did my FMT. I took a food test to see how much it changed (answering honestly). It was pretty profound.https://t.co/DytGxODsFj

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Coffee makes me poop now.https://t.co/CzRQxX9s98

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 7 years ago

@sm0bot If it is acting on the regulatory systems within the gut associated with serotonin and delta opioid production in the gut, it could explain quite a bit on the effects people seem to complain about. I think I experience the same thing when I get stressed.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana Ergo, you can split your group up into hypnotizable types and non hypnotizable types by giving them a strong coffee before the study and marking who had to use the bathroom 30 minutes later. Require they fast before to avoid false breaks. https://t.co/lvXgQFYheC

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 5 years ago

@Rahmeljackson Some coffees trigger the delta-opioid receptors more than others AFAICT, so it may be personalized depending on mutations that impact that process. https://t.co/VcyEOw3pRxMay also involve TRP receptors, which complicates further, but coffee is easy lever to experiment with.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana If you crouch the whole study as a medical test, you can probably also get their genes tested to verify their TRP receptors are a certain way.Mine is autism coded. It lets me mesmerize people easier. *blinks*https://t.co/k2sLIV51D6

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@pmarca @sbaroncohen I can predict autism by looking at people's eyes because autistic people tend to have mutated TRPM8 receptors and this impacts their blink rate. It's a trait that varies based on gender. https://t.co/LjCbXNgTvVAs TRPM8 is testosterone receptor.https://t.co/dSFaff98mQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana The tricky part is that the expression of these receptors varies quite a bit, hence why you wanna control for bowel activation as a catch for healthy serotonin function in the gut. The will indirectly control for proper bile function and gut bacteria / GI response.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana Smokers and non-smokers are also a potential bucket to use. The acidifying brands of coffee will neutralize nicotine in the blood and should be able to gauge gut permeability/mucus factors tied to gut health based on how quickly they need a smoke break.https://t.co/P74MddVwVp

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@increase_la @liminal_warmth Nicotine does weird things here, in particular around GI blood flow."In conclusion, although [nicotine] resulted in sex-specific alterations in [heat generation] and tissue insulation during cold exposure, the response in [rectal temp] was unaffected."https://t.co/uONIdyKIGZ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Lactate doing this is why we see some people needing to smoke after horizontal... uh.. exercise. It also can occur due to stress shifting amygdala sensitivity to blood pH, impacting homeostasis. Lots of variables to control for. But they can be controlled for.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana A timing measurement should work as a bucketing mechanism because the intestinal mucus acts as a barrier and changes how fast these chemicals enter the blood thru the epithelium while also impacting relevant intestinal TRP receptors.Only then can we begin to do real science...

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana This also implicitly groups people into groups who believe they can have thoughts implanted in them. The mind reading experiences of schizophrenics would cluster naturally in one of the buckets due to it being a common self-medication. https://t.co/QGOkXrf5es

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 5 years ago

It becomes problematic when the self-other boundary is deteriorated to the point where it feels like someone is invading your head. It's basically Pareidolia, but for mind reading. It combines with underlying anxiety into one that expresses paranoia.https://t.co/iIxamQqk0v

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana We can follow this up with a metabolome and gut biome test to see if indeed those who have poor mucus and low niacin production end up correlating.This will be way more mechanistic than any personality test would eve be.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana https://t.co/Vnd83A1WOA

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 4 years ago

@literalbanana @PageSeverian @LinchZhang real fake phenomena are the worst.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

@literalbanana We can also control for penis turgidity during nighttime arousal by doing what @bryan_johnson is doing to measure his dong. This would more cleanly bucket people into those with poor smooth muscle in their penis and further stratify against diabetes risk.https://t.co/jtVXHGd3tb

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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• over 1 year ago

well almost anything https://t.co/VE6aNfooGN

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana would be another easy way to measure gut health factors via a proxy, and make it seem more medically oriented despite actually just trying to replicate mesmerism.https://t.co/r1NX7nJhDN

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 2 years ago

@bryan_johnson I've been using garlic to treat problems in my brain & gut by leveraging it's action on ACE. Its fascinating how much brain blood flow and penis turgidity correlate.Nighttime thing is good proxy for toxin clearance from the brain via (g)lymphatic system.https://t.co/7z5R3oCWEF

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 1 year ago
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@literalbanana Though really this is just to make sure that we can involve bananas in the experiment in a way that passes Science Review Boards. https://t.co/5fGcL7j8gp https://t.co/xuS6kh2Bbv

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