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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

i think the worst mental habit i picked up from the way i played video games growing up was the idea that all mistakes can be avoided by a combination of looking up guides and save scumming. i think there is a part of me that expects this to work irl

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

playing games blind on “hardcore” would probably be good for my soul https://t.co/hLyNF5zssR

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daniel brottman 🪷@danielbrottman• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan one of the reasons i love chess is you can't go back, and regulating emotions in real time is vital, even as things sometimes go your way and sometimes don't. feels like great training :)

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @danielbrottman

@danielbrottman i always avoided games that involved playing against other people growing up too 😅 too stressful. i did play go for awhile in grad school

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daniel brottman 🪷@danielbrottman• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan hahah i hear ya. i just played my first game of go IRL the other day! i've tried getting into it a few times but am still very much a noob

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @danielbrottman

@danielbrottman it's got a very steep difficulty curve in the beginning so that makes sense to me, probably a big part of why it has a hard time catching on in the states 😅

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daniel brottman 🪷@danielbrottman• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan lol

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

basically the way i've structured my gaming experience my entire life is to minimize the possibility of experiencing a meaningful loss https://t.co/cZ8K6uByy3

QC@QiaochuYuan• about 6 years ago

when i was a kid i would play starcraft with all the cheat codes on because the experience of losing even a single unit was too painful for me to handle and that probably tells you more about the kind of person i am than i would like to admit

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesis• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan SAME THIS IS CRAZY

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesis• over 1 year ago

Replying to @exgenesis

@QiaochuYuan I wonder if save scumming in games is a big part of why I have to contend with scarcity mindset - I don’t have infinite retries???

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @exgenesis

@exgenesis it's super scary that it's literally impossible to undo anything irl like things just stay happened forever

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesis• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan I think this made me more of a naive consequentialist instead of initially basing my actions on values bc I was used to just checking both options and choosing the best instead of having to decide under uncertainty

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @exgenesis

@exgenesis i wonder if playing chess online might be a useful corrective

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesis• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan I think I’m mostly over it now thankfully

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QC@QiaochuYuan• over 1 year ago

Replying to @exgenesis

@exgenesis i ain't 😅

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesis• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan oh I thought this was specifically about the consequentialism vs values thing my guess is that bc the feedback loop in chess is so quick, it might not give you the desired effect - you probably want to play something where you live w your consequences for some time

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nobu hibiki@nobu_hibiki• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan This is why Roguelikes have been my go to lately. The idea that losing is somewhat mandatory eases the idea that there is a right way.

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Julian (moissanist)@moissanist• over 1 year ago

Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan for what it's worth, there are a lot of "cheat code" type shortcuts irl that are very valuable, cf. @frideswyth 's wonderful article on becoming a contractor https://t.co/KWBcq4A8hQ same with "saving" finding places where you can fail without actual repercussions is powerful

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