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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

sometimes i hate past versions of myself, or people who remind me of past versions of myself, because i consider him irredeemable i worry, looking upon them, that they cannot be saved. so far are they from the painstaking growth i now have and cling to. so forsaken

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth you made it out tho so there is hope

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv kind of. maybe. they’re not me, though, and "hope" is a weaker word than "will" https://t.co/XXi7PN5Go6

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

im not a parent but dare i say, when i look at those people who remind me of me, i want to rescue them and it hurts, that i can’t. that they’re their own person i don’t have access to their insides like my own https://t.co/spqzC6mgtP

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@visakanv i think this last tweet of the thread really sums up the whole thing. isn’t that funny https://t.co/VoWAz2xtEQ

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

i can’t fix them as immediately, or quiet the pain with fixing energy. and that hurts

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth https://t.co/tTtuVGhyFM

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

but we can't fix our friends. we can't fix our family. we can't fix our children. they are not our property to fix. we can only be present with them. few people have spent much time ever being truly present. it's rejuvenating, transformative https://t.co/cmHHDsv5vN

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv ❤️

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth hope is sufficient to invalidate “irredeemable”! like you said, you dont know their insides

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv i didn’t think about that. the world is alive, there a million things happening always. i have no idea what’s going to happen for them

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

it almost feels more like grief. i feel grief on their behalf. a sort of childlike belief "they’re not going to be ok". i know the despair that used to grip my throat. the desperate searching for something else

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i worry if they’re ever going to make it. im angry they’re not trying harder. i feel a thousand things, but one: comfort with letting go of where i am today the water of good that rushed into my cave, i don’t want to let it go. i don’t want to go back. to the emptiness

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

that’s not me, the guy with the empty cave https://t.co/9JKSwcz4w6 https://t.co/XtWFUqXiqz

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

sometimes water rushes into the cave of the heart. fills it up, this cave that was so parched, so dry. and i want to freeze this water. so joyful it is! to have a companion. i beseech the feeling to stay. "stay! it's been so long without you. i'll make a bed"

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

im not a parent but dare i say, when i look at those people who remind me of me, i want to rescue them and it hurts, that i can’t. that they’re their own person i don’t have access to their insides like my own https://t.co/spqzC6mgtP

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• almost 2 years ago

one of the hardest things is loving someone without trying to save them, because of the capacity it requires to grieve the pain they will probably experience

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

im not allowed. im not allowed to shake them, confront them, make em more like "tolerable version of me" than "intolerable version of me" simply bcause i can’t tolerate a pain in them that resonates with pain in me they put me in contact not just with their pain, but my own pain

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

it’s not enough to "get better." there is a time and place to go back and grieve, the times before it was better

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

even though today me feels better, living as that past version of me still haunts me, and seeing it live in someone else is seeing the reflection of the ghost that’s been silently following me around ive been silently ignoring https://t.co/AwQLrxDm4G

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i apologise to anyone who’s sensitive to this and picks up on this. i do feel hostility when i see old versions of me. the hairs on my neck do raise. what can i say, but it’s at least as much about me as you https://t.co/jWP0pZL4Rh

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

@love_of_reason i can't speak for what you (and daniel) feel, but i will say personally, i do feel some sort of hostility to some past versions of myself. i don't love them, i judge them. it's something i imagine you might be particularly attuned to. just know it's not about you, it's about me

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

alice miller says when children suffer unimaginable wounding, they tend to either pick the grandiose route and rise above it all, so far above their pain they can’t feel it, or the depressive route, where they live in the pain

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

im a tough nut. little me picked the grandiose route, always believed in a way out. i always had hope. i coped with hope

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

my own pain, in me, i can just about barely tolerate. i mean, i did for 20 years. i tolerated my feelings of pain, by avoiding them by constantly trying, constantly making plans, efforts to change things https://t.co/tz615M4HOr

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago

not getting what i want and immediately clinically turning that into a plan is not the same as the felt sense of not getting what i want

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

when i see that pain in others, and see them not trying as hard as me to change themselves, not coping with it the way i did, to make it just about tolerable— i feel my pain much more honestly. there’s less to immediately do. to immediately avoid it

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

the rawness of grief is blunt. it resists taking action and making plans

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

doing something about pain is only human, but trying to constantly do something about pain when the pain is chronic is avoidance

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i can’t fix them as immediately, or quiet the pain with fixing energy. and that hurts

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i can’t fix them as immediately. i couldn’t fix myself immediately either, but at least i could quiet the pain with fixing energy it hurts to revisit that pain without the buffer of fixing energy

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

but just maybe it only hurts just enough i can spend more time with the hurt directly than before https://t.co/F42fYYr184

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 2 years ago

life is much the same move over and over again, of staying with your present moment experience https://t.co/OSHdr0Ytd3

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

"we can't fix our friends. we can't fix our family. we can't fix our children. they are not our property to fix." "we can only be present with them. few people have spent much time ever being truly present. it's rejuvenating, transformative" https://t.co/XMIhfNCPoQ

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 3 years ago

but we can't fix our friends. we can't fix our family. we can't fix our children. they are not our property to fix. we can only be present with them. few people have spent much time ever being truly present. it's rejuvenating, transformative https://t.co/cmHHDsv5vN

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_• over 1 year ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth i feel i have a bunch of grief to move for this also, but im quite happy about how i relate to the grief - as another form of love - those past versions deserved better and i wasnt able to give them that (they weren't able to give themselves that)

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