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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago

compilation thread of major conversations/interactions ive had with my mom on my journey:

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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i listened to my mom share about the passing of her mother, a story she'd repeated (some might say "bitched and moaned about") for decades. and hasnt really mentioned to me since this conversation https://t.co/UPzl6RURr8

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

Absolute massive W, asked my mom to share about the passing of her mother, which I know was incredibly painful, but I’ve never actually listened to (always brushing it off because lots of reasons). I listened, I connected to her feelings and needs, we shared tears and embraced.

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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monumental conversation - she meets me in a way i didnt think possible (not speaking til im done), validates my fear of escalation, fear of invalidation, her jumping from topic to topic being hard to follow, heard her out https://t.co/3AWklctFKh

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

BIG W ALERT: JUST SHARED WITH MY MOM THAT I HAVE FEARS SHARING STUFF WITH HER, SHE RESPONDED TO THEM. SHE THEN LISTENED WITHOUT INTERRUPTING AS I SHARED ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR ME TO FEEL LOVE TOWARDS/FROM HER, AND ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK IVE PUT INTO CHANGING THAT

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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i share my orientation towards dating after realizing she "nags" about it because she's never heard me speak to it https://t.co/7p5OEcKHdL

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

Mom started lecturing me in a meandering hard to follow way, first about the importance of having kids early, then the importance of being stable with a job. I tried to connect with why she was sharing (e.g. what was hard for her about having me at age 35)

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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my mom can respect a boundary https://t.co/lCeC8DBUPE

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

Today (and recently) I’ve just told her “hey I’m in the middle of something can you give me a bit of time?” And she just… says yes. Surprising to the point of disorienting, my assumption is that she’ll ignore boundaries and requests, hence the need to blow up

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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at some point around this time frame, i walked out of a conversation that was getting heated (set boundary). i returned later and it was.. ok??!!! ???

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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monumental conversation - shared my fear of my mom, slowed down to show up with SERIOUS PRESENCE, invited her to slow down https://t.co/3w4eNJ0vao

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

just had a conversation with my mom where i shared that i was scared of her

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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led to her taking self responsibility (!!!!) and apologizing (!!!!!) and committed to changing/growing herself (!!!!) https://t.co/K4YGA9nOpS

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

around this time the conversation turned. at some point she had mentioned in passing that she needed to change too, to let me know if she was feeling disrespected, that it shouldn't all be on me. i thanked her for saying that. huge. i felt serious relief and gratitude

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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i listen to my mom share about the passing of my dads dad, a story she's told (some might say "bitched and moaned about") for decades. i get the closest ive been able to get to understanding why respect is so important to her. she still tells it :/ https://t.co/PY6jOQ5TPf

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

ok i think i finally am starting to understand why respect is so important to my mom

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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i go (too) deep and share about a part that doesn't believe in her care for me. it was above my pay grade and led to pain for both of us. good news is that it led us to seeing our therapist, which we leveraged to massive effect, and eventually got resolved https://t.co/SlKBc1pc9A

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I’m scared

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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for the last decade, i felt responsible for my mom's life, given her depressive history and suicidal thoughts. in this momentous conversation (facilitated by therapist) she affirms that her life is her responsibility, not mine https://t.co/GHs2JqKePX

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

i have dropped the biggest fucking burden - my mom affirming that her feelings and continued life is not my responsibility

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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for most of my life ive struggled to be too loving towards my dad out of fear of my moms jealousy. in this conversation we get on the same page, she wants me to love my dad, and she recognizes that if she feels some way about it, it's her responsibility https://t.co/w3180zLBJU

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

Today my mom affirmed that displays of love and care for my dad do not mean that I don’t love and care for her. Despite her internal resentment/comparison with my dad, which are her/his business, not mine

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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she occasionally expressed appreciation for how much effort i've put into our relationship. it made me cry basically every time https://t.co/7cXoQkSljp

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I get so emotional whenever my mom acknowledges how much effort I’ve put into our relationship

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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monumental conversation where we unpack what i consider our formative family dynamic, which is the root of the part of me that didnt believe that she cared about me. my moms no narcissist, she fucking cares https://t.co/hZc1GdgDrP

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

Today I finally remembered and named what I think are the core memories from which our difficulties arose - many times as a child, we would disagree, she would yell, I would go to my room and cry/stew in anger. My dad would come and console me

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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i share with my parents my illegible job/work situation, to which they're actually super respectful and listen to me, even if they dont personally resonate https://t.co/M4hoF16elR

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago

the conversation was actually really valuable too. the conversation prior to it was my mom doing the lecturing thing about "you gotta settle down and have work and stuff". i realized that ive never told her my plans, just as i hadnt with dating https://t.co/7p5OEcKHdL

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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monumental exchange, which is really just a text, from which i have a life changing internal shift that "i am whole, i am loveable" https://t.co/SXK8deqKqB

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

This message from my mom "我就沒有要改變你" => "I'm not trying to change you"Been crying the last 30+ minutes as I've realized I've been enough and am loveablehttps://t.co/DMFZHI0bJ9 https://t.co/uvygVZo5X0

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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to arrive here was actually a journey, where this was the beginning https://t.co/Bv4Rzx8BWf

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago

i go (too) deep and share about a part that doesn't believe in her care for me. it was above my pay grade and led to pain for both of us. good news is that it led us to seeing our therapist, which we leveraged to massive effect, and eventually got resolved https://t.co/SlKBc1pc9A

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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eventually clarified internally that it wasn about doubting her love but doubting her care, that she gave a shit what i wanted or thought https://t.co/zKDfvPxHzH

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I think my inner child doesn’t fully feel trust in my mothers love in large part because he didn’t feel like my mom cared about my wants or needs

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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which is why this conversation facilitated by the therapist blew my brains out, where my mom shared about all the people she was trying to please, particularly in the family context. i was like "wtf???" https://t.co/Po3zKnvvXC

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I was today years old when I realized my mom is a people pleaser

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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started noticing more subtlety around why my mom's explaining was so activating for me https://t.co/jptjxbe029

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

Wow I’m so sensitive to my mom explaining herself (and have so many judgments) because it reminds my inner child of every time she didn’t hear/validate my feelings and reassure me of her love

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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which brings us to this conversation in which i realize that she cared! she tried to do her best! https://t.co/uyTEIcoybR

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I had no idea she sometimes sent my dad to console me. I was quite moved to hear this, that she did care and took actions in her own way

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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her explaining landed poorly in me but was actually her trying to give me what she had always wanted when she was growing up "why are things happening", rather than just being told what to do https://t.co/nITmc7ECGa

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

This is on top of the way that she communicated in disagreements: focusing on explaining herself, which I perceived as a lack of acknowledgement/care for my wants/needs, as well as gaslighting of “you shouldn’t feel sad/angry/bad”

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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https://t.co/rW7ANOBFAk

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

My mom loves and cares about me. She always has. I am loved, my needs and wants matter

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
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@justavagrant_ "my moms no narcissist, she fucking cares" that hits so many people here had moms who were narcissists, by some bright line, but that just wasn't actually us

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 2 years ago
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wrangled with these kind of thoughts/considerations since around age 20 https://t.co/ITw1XUY12b

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I’ve desperately tried to fix my relationship with my mom to avoid becoming a murderer https://t.co/EU9naRXMmm

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