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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago

in retrospect it's pretty fucked up that you can just say to people "hey you know that hole at the center of your being" and they'll just be like "oh yeah the hole, i know exactly what you mean, love that hole, one of my favorite holes"

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

this comic about the hole is sort of right but also completely wrong. you aren't born with the hole, it is supposed to be filled with love, and it is possible to actually fill it instead of giving up https://t.co/MpIgtej83F

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

preconquest consciousness is a description of what happens in a society of people that never has the hole https://t.co/d53OCKu7lb https://t.co/MDLHnKI4QJ

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

you can sort of glimpse what it's like to not have the hole on MDMA but by default it doesn't last. need to actually do some healing work while the MDMA is there to facilitate it. resurfacing painful memories, talking to yourself, etc. generally giving yourself what you need

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

ideal parent figure protocol (IPFP) is the most directly hole-filling therapy modality i know of. supposedly you aren't supposed to administer it to yourself though, idk https://t.co/mWDu06QlLJ

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 3 years ago

3. ideal parent figure protocol (IPFP). this stuff is so powerful i'm often scared to do it. i barely did a tiny bit of it awhile back and it made like 30% of my anxious attachment relax. i'm dipping back into it more now and it's amazing https://t.co/po3PoyUvBD

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan wait really? Says who? Why?

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft dan brown (the creator) apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://t.co/ULqLjOsLGu

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan huhhhhh I want to know why though… I wonder if there’s like a “don’t fuck with your exiles” type issue like in IFS if you do it unskilfully would be annoying if it’s just about gatekeeping though

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft maybe partly gatekeeping and maybe partly like... i think if you've been deprived enough it just wouldn't occur to you what actual care looks like so you just might not imagine anything that's even close. but i think you can make up for this with fiction and stuff

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan yeah maybe seems insufficient to want to not let people do it on their own though anyway I’m glad Cedric is teaching it (via a meditation course that is totally not therapy)

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

anodea judith's suggestions for working with the bottom four chakras are also probably highly relevant https://t.co/PGWmIxJVT1

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 3 years ago

started reading "eastern body, western mind" by anodea judith on @nuanceexists's recommendation and feeling extremely called out by literally everything she says involving the root chakra what do you mean "the right to be here" 🥺 https://t.co/4GS2N13mqq

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

hole is funny because it's one of the sex words

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

richard schwartz calls the hole "the empty self" and claims it is specifically the result of american society becoming worse at raising children after WWII https://t.co/gZ5I32yQVV

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 4 years ago

"The result is the empty self, “a self that experiences a significant absence of community, tradition, and shared meaning.... a self that embodies the absences, loneliness, and disappointments of life as a chronic, undifferentiated emotional hunger” (p. 79)." https://t.co/xQXUq5CZjG

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

the dalai lama doesn't know what the hole is > the Dalai Lama tilted his head, his eyes narrowed in confusion. “Self-hatred?” he repeated in English. “What is that?” https://t.co/ATb2EfwPuf

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 6 years ago

@OortCloudAtlas @Meaningness @DougTataryn Brings to mind this story I heard about the @DalaiLama (wow, he's on twitter, wonder if he can confirm that this really happened 😛): https://t.co/Lh8bt3lUJq

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

amazing, some sweet sweet empiricism https://t.co/4nV1z0qgal

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

some useful nuance here https://t.co/0hzeU4dgpK

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

this is tricky stuff to talk about because 1) talking about it shapes how you relate to it and you may not want to relate to it the way the concepts i'm using here imply, this is finger-pointing-at-the-moon type territory, ignore all the specific words if they aren't helpful

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

and 2) roughly the way cult leaders work is that, either explicitly or through vibes, they attempt to promise to you that they and *only* they can fill the hole (so they need to find people who have gigantic holes to exploit). so the hole can become a tool to control people

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

so i figure that as a general defusing-cults strategy i can try to make information about the hole and what to do with it publicly available from multiple sources. it doesn't have to be esoteric knowledge you have to fuck some manipulative asshole to acquire

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

here's an entire book about how cult leaders use the hole to manipulate people. this is the sort of thing i wish i'd known even existed, before https://t.co/eDYRorEZwy

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

here's another book which is also about a cult but it's a personal story and probably easier to read. the other book i've only read the first few pages of but this one was a page-turner. really well-written, very relevant to my life https://t.co/fGI0hS9Ndk

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 2 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

alternative? somehow secretly compatible? take: https://t.co/0JVELdes5D

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan keywords: preconquest consciousness, hunters

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Chris Lakin@ChrisChipMonkabout 1 year ago
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@QiaochuYuan How did you come across Preconquest Consciousness btw?

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