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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago

wowwwww big discovery: spontaneous TRE muscle trembling plus MDMA is hecking big deal for somatic healing without a therapist

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

I won't take questions at this time but I wish someone had told me about this combo sooner! so I just had to put the two acronyms in one tweet to seed the idea for people who're ready to hear it if you have stories to share I'm all ears

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

TRE is a technique inducing your muscles to tremble, so they complete the trauma healing process WITH NO INTERVENTION FROM YOUR COGNITIVE AWARENESS, no stories, no talking, no thinking, just softened muscles & less reactivity thereafter https://t.co/kJHmPNhidk

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

theory: all mammals need to tremble to discharge the energy of a traumatic experience. modern humans mostly don't do this out of deep unconscious shame, and experience great benefits when they find a way to access that state of being (it's a kind of non doing cc: @m_ashcroft)

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

club wisdom tells you how to deal with muscle tension on ecstacy= chew gum, suck on a dummy, take magnesium WRONG ANSWER (for me) the muscle tension IS THE MEDICINE. listen to what the muscle wants, if it wants to twitch let it, just let the animal parts of you take over

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

hypothesis: mdma induces felt sense of safety in your animal body so you have an opportunity to STOP RESISTING the muscle tension that you have been carrying around all these months and years inhibitions drop, shakes take over, tension oscillates back and forth till its done

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

and maybe you tender nerds love magnesium so much because it gives you some relief from the pent up feelings you have stuck in your muscles eh

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€ here is a necessary warning https://t.co/4rKO6u83au

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago

@RichDecibels in case u havent been warned, plz be careful with TRE, and with recommending it to people with trauma, IMO it is employed very irresponsibly, ive seen the main guy (david) hurt people very badly with this technique, and i myself was hurt by it as well

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David R. MacIver@DRMacIverโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels As an alternative warning: I find TRE do literally nothing for me, despite the fact that other things in this space do work for me and I clearly need something like this. (I haven't tried them under MDMA)

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David R. MacIver@DRMacIverโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @DRMacIver

@RichDecibels Or rather they do something for me, but that something is purely physical, and sortof interesting and useful for that, but doesn't appear to result in any interesting emotional content.

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @DRMacIver

@DRMacIver Good data thank you!

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

https://t.co/5TanlJM1aM

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago

@bastard_brian I noticed muscles trembling, welcomed them, then I imagined Peter Levine asking me to "complete the movement", what does my body want to do? answer, push hard against a very heavy thing did that then: "what does this remind you of?" then, flood of intense memories

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

PS I'm doing this with my most trusted friend in the world, FFS don't try to deal with trauma on your own people!!

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

I was a wriggly kid, always wanted to move in peculiar ways, tapping fingers, making noise, bouncing my heels under the school desk all that movement was a brilliant mammal strategy for dealing with stress and all of it was physically punished out of me when I was a little boy

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

very grateful I met @awarenesss this year, he is a grown up, who moves thru a room just like my little boy self wanted to move. he reads group vibe and changes posture to serve it. eg this is getting tense, I will make sure you don't sweep it under the rug. or, OK, PLAY TIME

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

shit I wondering how this intersects with stammering!? phenomenologically correlated at least any reacts @aprivatething

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@embryosophy do you have any reaction to my hunch that long term locked up muscle tension is the result of actively resisting the body's need to tremble. so the way to release is to find the conditions where you can stop resisting

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Sarah McManus@SarahAMcManusโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels @embryosophy https://t.co/jE2kxoHqO1

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RomeoStevens@RomeoStevens76โ€ข about 4 years ago

"If you manage to control yourself there will be ice cream" said the parent. "I sure hope this doesn't have unforeseen lifelong consequences" thought the child, doing their best to physically tense the body in the higher ice cream probability shape.

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @SarahAMcManus

@SarahAMcManus @embryosophy wow bingo

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Cube Flipper@cube_flipperโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels it's me i'm the big nerd tenderising myself with a gram of magnesium a day

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @cube_flipper

@cube_flipper Good stuff! I hope it helps you along too the next step

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Cube Flipper@cube_flipperโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels did you catch my 2C-B muscular therapy thread? https://t.co/pQJ58sJh2o

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Cube Flipper@cube_flipperโ€ข about 3 years ago

muscle relaxants that Actually Work is a big untold story in psychedelic-assisted therapy imo https://t.co/leWo0sIVvl

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @cube_flipper

@cube_flipper thank you for sharing! I've bookmarked for future reading, glad to have your documentation

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels in case u havent been warned, plz be careful with TRE, and with recommending it to people with trauma, IMO it is employed very irresponsibly, ive seen the main guy (david) hurt people very badly with this technique, and i myself was hurt by it as well

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@RichDecibels its certainly not all bad, i myself have also healed a lot partialy through tremoring with mdma, but it is very very easy for it to get out of hand and disregulating, especially when on an amphetamine like mdma. if one chooses to do it anyway it is vital that

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@RichDecibels it is time-limited and it paired with some kind of grounding technique and is properly integrated

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@hormeze this is so generous of you thanks hormeze! it's new info to me I feel safe with the technique but I can easily see how it could go off the rails

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels of course, yw, just keep breathing and titrating and takign breaks and listening to your body and ur right ur likely safe if u feel safe and integrated

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claire@petrichor_lullโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@hormeze @RichDecibels yeah I gave myself like a month long breakdown with TRE ๐Ÿ˜ข it all worked out fine but it was a very hard way to do it. please approach TRE with a lot of caution and support and gentleness with yourself.

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @petrichor_lull

@petrichor_lull @RichDecibels ๐Ÿ’œ

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Joseph - Touch Sense@Signalsomaticsโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@hormeze @RichDecibels Thank you for the sobriety check. People have different responses to their traumas and various treatments. First do no harm. Applies to healer heal thyself as well.

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milan@MilanGriffesโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@hormeze @RichDecibels https://t.co/Qu6Xjqf4Li

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milan@MilanGriffesโ€ข almost 3 years ago

@RichDecibels Be careful with TRE (it seems helpful but, as with other potent somatic modalities like cultivating kundalini, prone to going off the rails)

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beepr@b_e_e_p_rโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @hormeze

@hormeze @RichDecibels hurt? as in muscle strain or something?

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Hormeze ๐ค„๐ค…๐ค“๐คŒ๐ค‰๐ค†@hormezeโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @b_e_e_p_r

@b_e_e_p_r @RichDecibels Harmed might be a better word for it Disregulated for a long time

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milan@MilanGriffesโ€ข almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels Be careful with TRE (it seems helpful but, as with other potent somatic modalities like cultivating kundalini, prone to going off the rails)

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