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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago

“In fact, they are at least half right . . .” “They are right to say that a world of 9 billion people all seeking the status of middle-class consumers cannot be sustained by vernacular approaches.” https://t.co/ouHvPtTeVl https://t.co/uG22DKcfNn

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“They are right to say that the human-scale, convivial approaches of those 1970s thinkers are never going to work if the world continues to formulate itself according to the demands of late capitalist industrialism”, which it is

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“What do we value about the Amazon forest? Do people seek to protect it because they believe it is “pristine” and “pre-human”? Clearly not, since it’s inhabited and harvested by large numbers of tribal people, some of whom have been there for millennia.” https://t.co/8G87qpLxyY

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“The Amazon is not important because it is “untouched”; it’s important because it is wild, in the sense that it is self-willed.”

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“‘Nature’ is a resource for people, and always has been” “But that doesn’t preclude us understanding that it has a practical, cultural, emotional, and even spiritual value beyond that too, which is equally necessary for our well-being.” https://t.co/AV23aThpmi

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“The neo-environmentalists, needless to say, have no time for this kind of fluff” “they cluster around a few key think tanks: then, the Institute of Economic Affairs, Cato Institute, Adam Smith Institute; now the Breakthrough Institute, Long Now Foundation, Copenhagen Consensus” https://t.co/zUm7qQXn9N

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“‘Conservation will measure its achievement in large part by its relevance to people.’” “gone their naïve, romantic, and antiscientific belief that nonhuman life has any value beyond what we very modern humans can make use of.”

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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the author does not deny the neo-environmentalist’s post-wilderness premise there is no untouched to go back to. no biome to rewind to but he articulates the primary value of the wild: that in it lies an autonomy beyond ours

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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“instead of two people mutually co-participating in . . . a field that hasn’t fully resolved yet” it is assumed there is simply the thing to be controlled and the controller https://t.co/snsJPI6yoj

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago

instead of two people mutually co participating in expressing their feelings in a field that hasn’t fully resolved yet, that has two human beings there is just one or zero: the predatory intelligence and the thing being controlled

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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the job of these scientific neo-environmentalists is to determine what is the best control state to ensure and then ensure it but that is not the wild

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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like the EAs, the neo-environmentalists feel the loss of wilderness but they replace that feeling with a plan for more control i daresay they emotionally bypass because to truly emotionally confront that place actually leaves you in a very bad place

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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—the same one that Ted Kaczynski found himself in. and the author one where they are almost confronted with the uselessness of their position both at the global scale and at the individual scale https://t.co/nUlRZ5hVou

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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to confront this emotionally you pass through helplessness, paralysis. resentment, revenge i spent my life avoiding those feelings and instead planning. i planned for a better future, and truly, i got it https://t.co/82t34Hi1s9

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago

not getting what i want and subsuming that energy into a plan is not the same as the felt sense of not getting what i want

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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in my case, i avoided blaming the system, i avoided blaming my circumstances, i only considered what i might do from there, and made my way out of my home country to a boarding school in the US, and from there, even richer foundations

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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i never blamed or resented, and so i got along well with power. i did not steep in paralysis or helplessness, and so i continued to act it was a clinical, rational course of action that afforded me my current life but that could only take me so far

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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but that could only take me so far, because now i am in search of my soul

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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the authors most concrete suggestion is this: withdrawal of withdrawal he says: https://t.co/cPJbRSpJ9U

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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because withdrawal is that space to process the truth of the helplessness of your situation withdrawal is that space to not immediately grasp for the solutions you can grasp for

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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because withdrawal is that space to reckon with feelings with being able to do anything about it it is, much like cultivating a relationship with the wild, the allowing of an agency outside you and bigger than you

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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one you are used by. one whose timeline for resolution you don’t control

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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one may even dare to make the comparison between withdrawing and Focusing or to more ancient practices still of withdrawing from the fray or quiet contemplation https://t.co/jxmefPpnPU

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RomeoStevens@RomeoStevens76about 3 years ago

Defending slack ruthlessly, saying no to most things. Quiet reflection and contemplation being where everything that isn't imitative comes from. 3/

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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withdrawal is the use of intuition to intuit next the way sometimes intuition is intuited through. sometimes it is through inaction https://t.co/EvuxwEN5uH https://t.co/Hooy3Tstso

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago

> But like… fuck around and find out > There is no such thing as “think about it and find out” https://t.co/OQlEW3XN9q

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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https://t.co/VfZEY4xZQP

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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more on withdrawal https://t.co/KM3pSmdxAX

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 3 years ago
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keywords: Dark Ecology, Ted Kaczynski

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