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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago

[@a_yawning_cat voice] auto insurance protects you from “unfair damage” by the universe consumer guarantees, moral outrage, the whole of society broadly is dedicated to protecting you from “unfair damage” by the universe

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat the unfair damage gets replaced by the calculated, accepted damage of capitalism and the state we do not accept or expect random, accidental damage from the universe. it feels wrong. we haven’t integrated that this is in fact the way the universe it

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat this is different from the world of the fremen in that their, there is no fair or unfair. the universe could take you out at any time. you have to live with that you live with the fact that the world could kill you at any for no reason https://t.co/Cn0ZGYvanU

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat the machine of humanity is built on top of this world. it brought many parts of the world into its control. so the machine could affect you, not the world. so we could begin to live by the rules we created as a society, instead of being based in reality

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat like layers of abstraction in a computer, our society is built in layers of stability. we can build fast shipping because we can depend on global supply chains because we can depend on humans not dying of random diseases or getting stuck on the trail

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat whatever can “actually happen” in the universe gets abstracted out https://t.co/uD6FovC5Vw

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat we created this fake world, but we forgot the underlying reality it depends on the underlying reality is that the world is not fair. there is no fairness. the sense of fairness is merely a preparedness to be outraged if something happens to us

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat feel it now, as you contemplate what it would be like if the universe killed you now is the first reaction some sort of fear? outrage? sense ”that this shouldn’t be happening”? we live fearful of the day the human machine we built loses control of reality

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat this is the economy of outrage, morality, rules, society this is the economy of human control, dominion, indeed an economy at all this is the economy of having substituted the real world for the human world we live in

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat the fremen live in a different world here, there is no fairness. there is no “jar”, no expectation error, at the fact that life could take you out at any moment, for no reason at all; there just is what is, which is https://t.co/c5ttRY8GoV

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

It provides the buffer on which to build stuff in a world that does not owe you anything because it is just a world; rain, hunger, hunters just are.

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat there is no jar because they accepted the Ultimate responsibility of being the fact that you can never ever delegate the responsibility of living and surviving to another human being

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat *you* are responsible. and yes, you and i live in a society that will mostly ensure we do not get killed. but you can never ever delegate that responsibility again you live more honestly in the world that way

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat it’s analogous to the moment when you first discover the power of non-self-abandonment when you realise you can never actually get validation from another person. no one else can really fill your void you live more honestly with people after that that way

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat something related to this. it is dishonest to live abnegating some parts of yourself to others. it is likewise dishonest to delegate the business of surviving to other people https://t.co/tFcphHHgPi

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat in the world of the fremen - you accept you can be killed at any time - there is no rules daddy to be outraged to - there is no “other kind of person” in the fremen world there is no one to delegate to in the desert, so you realise it’s just you https://t.co/sFFQXvny2P

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

you are dependent on others, you think you get rights because you asked daddy, because you cried moral foul there will always be an “other” kind of person who actually runs or provides in the world https://t.co/NKBWJDd65j

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat this is why they live so powerfully, and on vibes https://t.co/2R5uVu4yGT

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• almost 4 years ago

duncan has good vibes the fremen runs on vibes. life or death for them. it’s why they trust him

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat this is why duncan values them; he sees/senses the freedom https://t.co/R74aZpoSM8

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• almost 4 years ago

"you admire them?" "i do." duncan, about the fremen

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat the fremen did not build the patriarchal order it takes to haul spice goods across the universe and built atomic warships they did not build anything resembling the modern economy (which is very powerful indeed) https://t.co/ZIrTyNWVR0

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• almost 4 years ago

the sense of order to build a house the fremen may have adapted to the ecology. they did not build the patriarchy that hauls goods across space, that means one does not have to adapt, one uses brute force to create comfort

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@a_yawning_cat in the real world, when you are accepting the responsibility of living, things just are the way they are. you accept *you personally* can be struck by life at any point for no reason at all you begin to live in the world where you have no real control (or illusion of control).

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

rephrased: https://t.co/9770JZ2MCp

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago

we, you and i, live in a machine of humanity that protects us. that machine attempts to exert its control within its boundaries, and we largely live in the grip of it the danger is in substituting reality for the nature of the machine https://t.co/OQYHwHaSVr

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

in one tweet: you cannot delegate the responsibility of living to another person. once you confront the fact you are ultimately responsibility, you integrate the fact that the universe can take you out at any time. you live in touch with the underlying reality of the universe

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

you are better prepared to be less jarred when the imperfect abstraction of society and its rules and its dominions of controls does not perfectly insulate you from the rules of the universe https://t.co/4dzseTOJYD

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 4 years ago

It provides the buffer on which to build stuff in a world that does not owe you anything because it is just a world; rain, hunger, hunters just are.

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

oof, i have a really good, concise thread on all this already https://t.co/UA9PUgt9uz

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

the story is thus is: humans band together to survive. surviving by yourself outside this group is nigh impossible. we become relevant to this group of humans, so they participate in keeping us alive, through jobs, homemaking, family https://t.co/P7pzqTVrjP

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

why am i tweeting about any of this? /because it’s too painful to live in a world where i am delegating the responsibility of living to another person. where i am relying on some imperfect rules daddy to control things and keep me safe/

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• about 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

i’d rather just head the truth i already believe on some level: that they cannot always keep me safe. nothing can. that this is okay i am responsible

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