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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 3 years ago

The deontology to utilitarianism to nihilism to Buddhism to Confucianism pipeline

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 3 years ago
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This is niche, but know at least a dozen people who have gone this way. Example:Jewish/Christian upbringing >EA >Burnout/disillusionment >Monastic Academy/Dan Brown/Mark Lippmann/Evolving Ground/Tasshin >Discovery of fractal altruism

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 3 years ago
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Fractal altruism: scaling altruism from inner altruism (positive relations amidst your IFS parts) to your community to the wider world

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 3 years ago
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It’s less direct path to make-world-good than trad EA, but IMO more likely to work (…if we can find a way to not extinct humanity in the meantime)

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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfoglemanover 3 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman of course this reminds me of Peace Pilgrim, and her "entire peace picture": https://t.co/BMdp2lJBNX

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2/24/2022
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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfoglemanover 3 years ago
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@TylerAlterman looking for that quote, I also found this one, which hits hard this morning https://t.co/wyrqpwLeHE

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 3 years ago
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Interestingly, this “Confucian”/fractal altruism has been emerging in my social circles organically, in a bottom-up way. Unlike EA there’s no canon or manifesto that everyone synced on.

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Fun Pilgrim@tasshinfoglemanover 3 years ago
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@TylerAlterman https://t.co/QmEVkFcMeT

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago

and really the best way anybody can help is not even to think about me at all, but to focus on tending first to themselves, &then the people in their lives. help unblock each other, encourage each other to do whatever it is that lights up your eyes, makes you excited to be alive

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @tasshinfogleman

@tasshinfogleman @TylerAlterman ooo. I would say fractal altruism is also basically the big picture FAN game https://t.co/QCM7vr3rzW

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago

if we play our cards right https://t.co/65KsVIYWuC

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3/2/2022
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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 3 years ago
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Ps am actually uncommitted to IFS here. Sub “good internal relations/health”

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daniel brottman 🪷@danielbrottmanover 2 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman is Fractal Altruism a term you coined here? I haven't heard it elsewhere. Is there more writing about the idea? The gist of it as described here i've basically been on board with for some time, just always curious for more

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12/26/2022
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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 2 years ago
Replying to @danielbrottman

@danielbrottman I can't remember if I came up with the term or @algekalipso did. Or maybe someone else? 🤷‍♂️I wrote very speculatively about it toward the end of this article: https://t.co/Ot52uIqZpb

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daniel brottman 🪷@danielbrottmanover 2 years ago
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@TylerAlterman @algekalipso Thank you!

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12/26/2022
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Captain Pleasure, Andrés Gómez Emilsson@algekalipsoover 2 years ago
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@TylerAlterman @danielbrottman No doubt you did! I was too caught up worrying that the scale-specific network geometry of social interactions would make "fractal" a misleading term 😅 https://t.co/ujY58dh7T6

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12/26/2022
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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanover 2 years ago
Replying to @algekalipso

@algekalipso @danielbrottman Ohhh right

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12/27/2022
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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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@TylerAlterman fractal altruism is a good term for this place in the pipeline i didn't know i was a part of https://t.co/WYaeFANjPw

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

@ashleydzhang 1. Ineffective egoists. 2. Effective egoists. 3. Expand ego to include the 🌍. 4. Effective altru-egoists.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
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@TylerAlterman also lol https://t.co/q8hYloxZtD

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