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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

i keep using this word real. i don't have to explain it to you, because you know what i mean. what does it mean? it means something like: "holds a reality as you interact with it" https://t.co/Dpzg5C6NKy

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

those things are real, but they are not as real, and if you only have them, you will be driven crazy https://t.co/comlDeNsLn

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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the wall is real because it continues to stay a wall. a painting i perceive at a distance is not so real, because i can’t quite interact with it; it might turn out to be a mirage

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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the stairs you hallucinate on LSD are not as real, because you cannot walk up it the thoughts you have about other people, may not be so real, if they can exist without any action

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

it is only by participating in action that something becomes real it begins to acquire a reality to it. a kind of reliability https://t.co/QX2mgS6vXE

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

- why *doubting* if you are doing phenomenology is so corrupting.. it implicitly invokes the frames of certainty & uncertainty, not reliability - from certainty → reliability. a new language from the body - descartes’ daddy issues https://t.co/i8VCztI86g https://t.co/V038j63dcX

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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freezing things is isolation. introspection is isolation. it can help, to slow and examine things. it can also freeze things, making them invisible to see and increasingly unhinged the feelings are being blocked from participating in action https://t.co/0FP3e2KT3q

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

beginning to feel that anxiety, emotional distress, etc cannot be dealt with on their own; only as participations in the larger scheme of life

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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isolation is the meta-danger https://t.co/0y6SaoTtUd

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

the problem with relating to everything as a state of mind is its vulnerable to goodharting when you goodhart on the state of mind, it can feel increasingly disconnected and closed isolation is the meta-danger https://t.co/hLcK5nHlnr

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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reparticipating in society and action makes you real reparticipating in touching the grass and the ground grounds

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

these little actions we take like going for a walk seem simple and small, but they're hugely fascinating and non-trivial phenomenology is cool https://t.co/sWMGBlV9gr https://t.co/ElxOEkQqG0

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

“I’m gonna go for a walk” https://t.co/8PxmWEgUlS

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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phenomenology describes the experience of what already was was for us no wonder Focusing came directly out of it https://t.co/mQJI3xAfmh

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

perhaps it is unsurprising then Focusing was born quite directly from phenomenology https://t.co/x8FA8B1bUi

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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this is all from merleau-ponty, btw, whose book kind of single-handedlt changed my life, by making the body real to me: by making realness real to me https://t.co/1NNQ8YSaLe

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• almost 4 years ago

reading Merleau-Ponty allowed me to begin perceiving my own habit-body just because i, my consciousness, was happy, didn’t mean by body was whether or not my body felt loved was a lived set of habitual responses; it was something else entirely from my cognitive layer

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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here i mean realness as = reliability, and real to me as = i perceive it now. it is real to me https://t.co/RXvx8UXCGY

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago

there is such a thing as *making real to you* make real = make it part of your consciously experienced reality. not just your unconsciously experienced one

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 3 years ago
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"holds a reality as you interact with it" reliability and reality are deeply interrelated things are real to the extent they are reliable

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