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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago

hmmmm it took me 12 months to get the first $100k from my course it won’t hit $400k in 10 months unless I Do Things, and I’m not optimising for revenue at all*, but it makes me wonder about how I want to navigate this *just look at the ‘copy’ on my ‘sales page’ lol https://t.co/9CwgQpmHH7

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

I guess I'm worried that doing things explicitly to increase sales might mean behaving in ways that changes people's impression of me but that discounts an enormous amount of low hanging fruit that I could address that would probably at least 2x sales and no one would notice

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

but also more money means more sales (duh) which means more people take my course which is what I want? like, that's unambiguously good from my perspective so the fear is not revenue chart going up and to the right, it's the process

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

oh wait this is an Alexander Technique thing lol I am scared that I will 'end-gain' and lose sight of the 'means whereby' i.e. I am worried I will make the goal of making more money more important than the methods I take to get there when I want it to be the opposite

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

so sure, I intend to move in the direction where my course has made a total $400k by the end of 2022, why not but I don't want that to become more important than being fully available to choose any route to get there, which includes being free to choose any other goal if I want

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

okay cool that's useful also reminder to self: I haven't mentioned end gaining or means whereby in the course at all and I should probably address that 😅

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft yea i can help you with this......whenishipmydangbook

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv ship the book plz visa i need to feed my family

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Loopy@strangestloopover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft @visakanv tfw won't be able to gift the book to my wife for valentine's day

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft ykno what I can give you a freebie rn in a few minutes before I go to bed

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft I just made you at least $10,000 https://t.co/b5RJeVm398

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv !!! okay I will change the thing thanks!

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft yea so just basically a fractal of things like that throughout the whole thing, is visa-as-a-service. truly it's free money and you won't even change anything about who you are. lemme put together a quick doc with other smaller suggests/observations

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv dude I love this way of thinking about this, I can work with this any suggestions would be amazing, and ofc you know I'll give you money when the time is right

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft michael you do not even tell people what AT is on the start here page you know where you do say it? on your personal about page here is another $20,000 you're welcome my god https://t.co/LuIfjHkPWI

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv i acknowledge freely that i am bad at this side of things, i don't know why i am kinda hiding (thank you, I will update)

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ChrisD@sensefulroninover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft @visakanv I liked the sincerity of the last line, although as a potential customer, I don't know how the "oasis" would benefit ME. Is it a personal exploration or a shared exploration?

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft ❤️ it's perfectly normal and kind of cute/sweet tbh. I think all the good people are a little shy about their work and the effects of their work and so on

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft take your "What is AT" page, open it in a tab next to the "Start Here" page, and weave in all of the most interesting, exciting, compelling things into the Start Here page. you might be thinking "but people can click to learn more": no. like 50-90% of them will get distracted https://t.co/QRthjDMpmE

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @m_ashcroft this is so fun to watch. like business domming 😂

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft visa eye for the sheepish business guy

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft the people need a universal basic visa

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft I do intend to do this for everyone around here who wants it. I will level up everybody's marketing/positioning, everyone will make 10x more money, and then we will fund the golden age https://t.co/eOS4X1HIk5

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 4 years ago

@DRMacIver @m_ashcroft @mechanical_monk Inshallah I’ll get each of you more paying customers than you can handle. Focus on becoming goddamn excellent

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QC@QiaochuYuanover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @goblinodds @m_ashcroft 🥲

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft whoa amazing honestly i figured the answer was "visa's books are universal basic visa" but 🔥🔥🔥

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft so there are actually several different "spheres of vv", and the marketing/positioning one is the one I slow-play the most, bc I don't want to attract smarmy grifters and $-chasers. the FAN and Introspect stuff is to get the right ppl in the door ...i shd also update my mkt blog

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Elodes@ElodesNLover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @goblinodds @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft visa I gotta hand it to you, you sure know how to be based af

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @ElodesNL

@ElodesNL @goblinodds @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft 🥰🙏🏾

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Rudra Dakini@the_wilderlessover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @goblinodds @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft Just came back across this, putting in a formal request for whenever you get back to it 🍃

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I have made a first go at this and will come back and do more when in a clearer headspace (also I have already made $250 since tweeting about this began)

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft yea you don't need to be super rah-rah aggressive bold and caps about this stuff. really just go over the start here page from time to time pretending you don't know anything about this michael guy or AT and ask "but so what? why do I care?" at every line

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft this ad by charles atlas is still one of the GOATs the next $200,000 worth of copy update will be to add some detail about re: "chump" – you want to articulate what your clients typically struggle with, address their objections/uncertainties, etc. capture the emotional state esp https://t.co/Zgdo49XAZb

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv oh amazing and I have nearly 650 students who I can ask directly lol I need to walk through some "I'm an idiot" energy I think

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft yeah you already have product/market fit which is the hardest part of the problem. after that you basically have to, um, get out of your own way >_>

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft getting people to discuss their issues and the difficulties/pains of their starting conditions can be a really lovely experience too, humanizing, there may be tears. nobody expects this from their marketing consultant

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Rob Haisfield@RobertHaisfieldover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @m_ashcroft First thoughts that came to mind re why I'm going through the course:I can go through life on autopilot, trapped in my head, and make careless mistakes as a result. The idea of interrupting habitual behaviors that don't suit me but I can't seem to shake was a big driver.

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Rob Haisfield@RobertHaisfieldover 3 years ago
Replying to @RobertHaisfield

@visakanv @m_ashcroft But this may be a good fit for a feedback survey with course participants, which it seems like you now have a lot of! If you have questions you wanna ask them, I can spin up a quick GT form for you.

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @RobertHaisfield

@RobertHaisfield @visakanv !!! yes let me think about some questions

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @RobertHaisfield

@RobertHaisfield @visakanv *adds to swipe file* urgh, wait, let me actually reveal how bad I am at this *creates swipe file*

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @RobertHaisfield

@RobertHaisfield @m_ashcroft "life on autopilot" WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@RobertHaisfield @m_ashcroft idk if you're doing a/b testing or anything but this is another banger. It's so good my god you have to use it somewhere https://t.co/2YLCDmwZi0

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @RobertHaisfield do you think I’m A/B testing visa

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft @RobertHaisfield I guess like, in your heart

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft @RobertHaisfield tbh i myself never really respected a/b testing, like i was asked to do it, but i only liked it when the results followed what I wanted, or if I didn't have strong feelings one way or another. sometimes the results would be bad for my preferred copy but I would be adamant anyway

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@m_ashcroft https://t.co/du8Yddsuyp

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 6 years ago

common assumption is that marketing is about putting a false veneer onto lousy things. some people *do* do that, and it leads to ugly, highly visible failures far more interesting and satisfying to look for good things that have lousy veneers, and just remove the veneer

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv cue fears about it not being good, but so many people have said nice things that I can't let myself get away with those thoughts any more so, yes

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthover 3 years ago
Replying to @m_ashcroft

@m_ashcroft just keep talking about not advertising until everybody has bought the course

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Michael Ashcroft@m_ashcroftover 3 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

@AskYatharth hahaha

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