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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago

Great Scenes Play Unique Games (thread)

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

How is it that Scenius manages to coordinate disparate people without "governments or companies"? Alan Kay believes it's captured in the 'power of context'. I agree. Scenius is capable of unique coordination because its members create and play unique games. https://t.co/QG1uzKcYSZ

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Finding a new game is a natural thing to do for curious, dedicated people. They naturally want to find a "creative frontier that is large". Large enough to play for a long time. (h/t @michael_nielsen) https://t.co/ohye3jemSt

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

The Royal Society is a great example โ€” they basically formed around the new social "game" of science. Science was such a niche pursuit at the time, that only a few geeks would center around "doing science" for fun. https://t.co/nRG3DkpCzi

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Once a new game is formed, groups want to recruit, so they often make legible pathways for new participation in the frontier. They document discoveries, share interesting problems, and evangelize "the thing". The Royal Society wanted to spread the gospel of science. https://t.co/HplKrWXt3J

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

When the game is exciting enough, word spreads, and an entire scene develops around it. There is a new frontier to explore. The "rules" for this new space are mostly social โ€” the Hackers had their "hacker ethic", the Inklings had their "mythopoetic vision" https://t.co/yyPyqY8kve

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Sometimes you don't know the rules for the new game yet. Moments like this are exciting. You can feel a new game forming that you want to play -- that you might want to play for years -- and you've got a shot at greatness. https://t.co/qzoMlUdliy

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvโ€ข almost 5 years ago

@QiaochuYuan i have a similar feeling โ€“ like I can feel like there's a new game but we're still playing the old game

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Sometimes the game is crashed. A corporate interest takes notice, the powers that be are brought to bear on the problem. It's amazing AND tragic. You did it! You convinced the world to play. But now it's over, you need to move on to the next game. https://t.co/EIvNWrbTbv

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvโ€ข over 4 years ago

but anyway, the abundance mindset move is to always move on to the next thing. people have figured out this voice? cool, that game has been completed. time to find a new game https://t.co/OtpUhpvq5F

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

It's hard to know which "new, exciting game" will turn out to be tremendously valuable. The Royal Society was 12 dudes who loved the game of science. The Hackers cared more about the game of "neat hacks" than impressing anyone else. https://t.co/dKO7wls8TY https://t.co/yvo56XeGtc

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Peter Thiel is famous for denouncing competition. Scenius seems to agree: by playing a new game, you create a new incentive landscape and status hierarchy. Scenius gets "a monopoly" on exploring "The New Thing" Impressing your peers becomes all that matters, more than money.

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Conjecture: any successful new science basically starts as a new game that a group of people love to play with one another. The incentives of that game shape the field. https://t.co/HFEO07KhmO https://t.co/QTsNLGapmL

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

The social incentive landscapes of new games can be observed through the flow of social capital throughout the scene. What contributions earn social capital in this scene? https://t.co/rOW8KKTkdx

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

Economic incentives need to keep people together, AND the social economy needs to reward innovation. When a scene's social incentives converge with "something brilliant", they can't help being brilliant. https://t.co/COu4gVqgNc

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanโ€ข over 4 years ago

2/ Without an economic ecosystem that ties people together in positive sum games, new cultures can be easily destabilized, especially by:(a) global crises (see how corona rekt so many subcultures)(b) shiny economic opportunities (eg job in a different city)

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

A "new game" is a type of "social frontier", which creates incentives for people to explore an intellectual frontier, where it's common for groups to build an "innovation commons" https://t.co/21786Q43N1

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Sam Barton@samhbartonโ€ข almost 4 years ago

@visakanv Best explanation I've heard for this is the idea of an 'innovation commons'. Spoke to @profjasonpotts a little while back, author of 'Innovation Commons'. https://t.co/3jIS14eumo https://t.co/QM2a1BxdRJ

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

In great scenes, these new social games almost always create strong incentives for Unblocking, which is a core component of Scenius: https://t.co/DsxOzw72bY

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข about 4 years ago

Scenius' are also obsessed with unblocking each other's work! There are so many examples of this from my research. (unblocking as in: removing roadblocks to progress, and pushing each other's work forward)

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

re: new sciences start out as unique games https://t.co/kBsfu2X0Kr

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

@__drewface What new games do you think are forming now?

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman There's a game to connect interesting people/ideas together on Twitter. @visakanv, @Malcolm_Ocean, etc. There are new games and grifts in ai/web3/metaverse (@vgr covers these) A game around New Governance (@palladiummag, @newscienceorg, etc) Still early days for these spaces

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman @__drewface ha i loved that you asked the same question as the last time (in reply to quoted tweet above) I would say since then my sense is that the old game is reactive while the new game is proactive. it's hard to point at, but few people realize we can tweet *absolutely anything*

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman More interesting to me: what new games are you playing right now? Personally I have a lot of eggs in an emerging game (rules haven't formed yet) around building/connecting communities for the sake of flourishing Many people doing this, but extremely loose organization.

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

@__drewface @TylerAlterman one i'm gonna start playing after i ship my book is i'm going to look for talented people to microfund, and then compete with other people for who can do the best/most microfundings. let a thousand emergent ventures bloom https://t.co/TXAwaUUorU

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvโ€ข almost 4 years ago

mint 1000 tyler cowens

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andrew (in CS teacher mode) ๐ŸŒน@__drewfaceโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv @TylerAlterman Oh, wow, I know some other people who want to play! @PlayNiceInst

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanโ€ข almost 4 years ago
Replying to @__drewface

@__drewface Can you say more about the "mythopoetic vision" of the Inklings?

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