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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

There’s a similar version of this going on with Discipline, Happiness, Motivation—all of those. We have a tortured relationship with the Thing. And so we know, to naïvely chase after it, 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘶𝘴, would not be right. https://t.co/m6tNs91xE0

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

When people imagine happiness, they imagine a sugar-coated version of it. If they truly imagined it, it would by definiton feel completing. https://t.co/5sbzjmJkBl

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
Replying to @AskYatharth

E.g., here’s Jocko Willinck sincerely espousing Discipline = Freedom. But to the self-coercer, even if they have discipline, they 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘧𝘦𝘦𝘭 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦. https://t.co/SOMZWJFRcE

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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There are people who can sincerely note down points of gratitude, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘧𝘦𝘦𝘭 𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘥𝘦. Only ever a tortured version of it. They are right to reject gratitude practices, as presented to them. https://t.co/GXzlyQZCwc

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiationabout 4 years ago

@nickcammarata 100% and I believe: advice to increase happiness by “noting the positive” or “practice gratitude,” or, hell, all of CBT emerges from, and perpetuates, this sugarcoat-y misunderstanding

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Sure, discipline will get you financial freedom, temporal freedom, but for a person whose core wound is autonomy—they will still not feel a kind of freedom: they kind they care about. https://t.co/epD3T1roB9 https://t.co/SSf0WsMB74

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

My core wound is autonomy.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Are you allied to me even if I don’t change? No? Then you are not allied to me, and I am 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦 in a way I want to be. https://t.co/1QjCfoq8ZO

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

What do you want? “Not this.” “Are you allied to me?” “Even if I don’t want change?” [thinks]

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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Same with fucking motivation. They are insanely powerful nexus of structure in my life when I 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 to do something, and the fucking psy-op keeping me alive in a life I don’t care to live otherwise. https://t.co/jC16zaczVB

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

Motivational songs are a powerful drug. I didn’t want to be consumed by the egregore of them. I do want to use them, for myself.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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I wonder if this is partly why “I want empathy for my problem, not solutions” matters. Because if someone doesn’t have empathy—they don’t give a fuck. They don’t give a fuck about seeing you through your emotional blocks as they exist . . . https://t.co/UN06Ty2894

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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. . . if their version of the solution doesn’t work for you, because your relationship with it is tortured. Empathy means you care about the person’s actual relationship with the solutions, tortured as it may be, instead of the one you wish they might have had.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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When Jocko Willink talks about reacting to things with 𝘎𝘰𝘰𝘥, he isn’t just saying it. He means it. He isn’t doing the sugar-coated version of the thing. He is doing the thing. https://t.co/auYwHdYH1C https://t.co/lAq7Qvcd9R

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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In a way you might not know what means because you don’t know how to do it yet. Your way of doing it would be tortured. You are doing what any human being is capable of doing. Relating to it from the perspective of your experience.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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The opportunity we have, though, is to recognise we might need to relate to the experience—Happiness, Motivation, Discipline—in a way that does not relate as much to our experiences. https://t.co/NmBTweewKs

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

Relate from a place of not knowing. Relate without relating.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago
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We keep our mind open, for a feeling we did not yet have a name for. That has nothing to do with Naval bros or hustlers or other people grifting themselves harder than others can grift them in a way you know you are prone to also doing and that causes you pain. https://t.co/pv7Pqo6uwp

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthabout 4 years ago

there’s a lot of what feels like earnest but cringe Naval-bros type energy https://t.co/L49gs8zI4m

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