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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

I never felt like a real person. I didn’t entirely know what I meant by this, but I knew it had to do with how I only ever existed in two states - around other people, fake, like I was constructed for them - around myself, non-existence, like I wasn’t a real person to talk to

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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I didn’t feel real in a very certain way, reality didn’t feel real.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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Part of it has to do with disembodiment; part of it has to with the oomph of truly wanting, not just optimising; . . .

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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. . . part of it has to do with living in a world where there felt consequences, not just school, looking good for new pieces of paper; . . . https://t.co/D6rfom2mll

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

Even as a kid, I lived in a heady, abstract world, where actions still didn’t feel real. Helping someone didn’t have the oomph of this was a real person, who was helped. Symbols, numbers, notions of good. That oomph is agentic reality.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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. . . and part of it was respecting my own self as a listener worth in its own right, no needing others to be around to hear (what this thread is about).

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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I knew—I was so hyper deeply aware—that I had this need, to share all thoughts and insights I had, with a best friend, with mom, with someone else, else it somehow didn’t feel real.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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I seemed to not exist in the in-between parts where I wasn’t talking to people, and when I was, I felt constructed and fake.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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It blew my mind, my sophomore summer, when for the first time in my life, I had begun talking to myself—invented all sorts of mental voices, the coach, the Human, the executive—and suddenly, I remember it distinctly, had an insight and didn’t feel the need to share it.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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Not with a best friend, not with a parent, not with anyone, no sirreee. It was enough I knew. I was real in some way, I knew it then.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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Even now, I take myself out on night walks, and find myself with an insight, and exclaim, “Aha, and there is no one to hear it!” Your bounty and your treasure will be yours and only yours forever.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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I stopped construing everything in terms of optimising, optimising, optimising for others I suppose, and instead, gave way to the arbitrary Wants and Desires of myself. https://t.co/jADZDMVsFE

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

Every day, I just asked myself ‘hey what do u wanna do rn?’ And I am privileged and lucky enough to be able to do whatever the answer is. And over time | didn’t have to ask anymore. My body just told me https://t.co/uswDwgrgj5

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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I outlined 4 distinct ways I didn’t feel real, but they’re related, of course; just above, I connected [not feeling real except around others] to [not feeling real due to optimising, not know what it was to want arbitrarily]. https://t.co/MrL0cQqpAc

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago

Part of it has to do with disembodiment; part of it has to with the oomph of truly wanting, not just optimising; . . .

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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Why was I that way? Some speculations 1. An an INTP, the main way I processed information as through my Ti-Ne loop: expressing ideas out loud, then checking internally for consistency. https://t.co/dzuAEJ56Ok

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthalmost 5 years ago

@captain_mrs The core insight, then, is to view the dom–aux as a pair, a loop that completes each other. INTP and ENTP are not terribly different. Their dominant loop is the same. https://t.co/oz9hktz08Z

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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It was deeply important to speak out loud. I had to speak every thought out loud. I always wanted to be cool and have internal monologues around people, but that just wasn’t my brain’s primary way of processing information.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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2. I grew up as a Floating Head Person. I kinda rendered other people at the lowest possible resolution of my “people GPU.” People sometimes came to me and bothered me with a stimulus and I had to provide a certain response so they would go away satisfied.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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The thing about that is—when you don’t need a model of other people so much, you don’t need a model of yourself either. Everything just existed, there was no clear “I,” and so I’m not surprised I grew up without a clear sense of what I wanted, my internal monologue, etc.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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keywords: decisions as expression; wanting, arbitrary, desire

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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I enjoyed writing this thread. It feels like filling in more of my portfolio. One I’m not totally sure what for, but I know I’ll be QTing and building up to all the ways I haven’t real, and learned over the years.

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yatharth ༺༒༻@AskYatharthover 4 years ago
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keywords: alone, dating myself, floating head person; real, reality; MBTI, Ne-Ti loop, INPT

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