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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago

I think I’m revising my belief about determinism in a direction I don’t like, and this has been a source of unpleasantness and frustration for me. I think reality is more deterministic than I had wanted to believe. The good news is that it’s still very open-ended... I hope πŸ˜…

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

People can change, people can surprise you, unforeseen things happen all the time... yet(?) this is really more a function of the limits of our perception, our understanding and our models of reality. In a way our ignorance is a source of novelty and surprise

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Within a practical frame I *don’t* think it’s possible or realistic to hope to model reality perfectly, it’s too complex, too many variables, too full of cascading effects etc etc

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

My optimism is undiminished but I’m revising my ideas about how to manifest it

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I’ve always been wary of telling people what they should do or how they should act. This wariness is increasing

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Most of the work of any event is done long before showtime. Kind of obvious but still I continue to underestimate this

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

We β€œplay the cards we’re dealt”, and β€œgo to war with the army we have, not the army we wish we had” - these are correct in the immediate present. But in the long game, if you can choose better cards, better players, etc, it makes sense to do so

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

walking away from a disagreement can be a more profound and substantial disagreement than having it. not always; often it’s shitty escapism or conflict avoidance. But also, not every fight has to be fought If you play a bigger/longer game you *will* be misinterpreted

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I just had to do this with a dear friend. People who say "never burn bridges" have clearly never been at war. Bridges can be rebuilt. Lives are at stake. Move fast and break rules. Crucially, not people.

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv "Don't go to war if at all possible" is how it should go Any real self-defense does it that way. Play to win. And in an infinite game there are infinite potential moves. Your opponent cannot plan infinite defenses. If you're on the ropes; move to a new rope

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv How often do you break this rule?

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@CountJ0ecool it’s not a rule, it’s more of a vibe

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Do you have any rules/fences left at this point? Any fences you perceive but can't cross? https://t.co/CEhbuMZD2E I'm very lost r/n but I want to build the network as fast as is reasonable

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago

@abhalliwell @chaophagy There is a way across the Fence. Build a Bridge. Problem is, nobody inside these bubbles has any hope of navigating out. They need a person with one foot planted on either side of the fence to act as a bridge.

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv ok that's not true at all I want to go as fast as is POSSIBLE but that's why it is with good reason that it is not up to me https://t.co/THYnJGCIjq fallback: make good art until morale improves

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago

@eddiephlash @ESYudkowsky No. EY thinks so too, which is why he considers that a non-aligned AI. I would consider that acceptably-aligned, because the remaining 6billion of us would get to live like god-kings, and on balance that's worth it. Don't let me design AGI until I can prove it's aligned.

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6/24/2020
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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@CountJ0ecool https://t.co/9w29m39pIa https://t.co/wxOAVmtvgG

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 6 years ago

latest version some people have asked for a PDF (idk why, but ok) you can have that one here: https://t.co/SY3Oi82hF5 https://t.co/fKBnf7btzs

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Fuck but I need to channel the manic pixie ADHD dream energy to build me one of those. I blame my tools, but the only one who's to blame here is my self. Twitter has been surprisingly close to semi-long shortform writing. Will find a better UI; I'm sure you have one in there

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv I think I start with SAVE THE WORLD and work backwards from there

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv actually second idea I have three potential candidate open source projects to work on and I need help focusing my attention fallback: will consult the bones

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv bones said: Do the first two, the third will look unusual https://t.co/942OFmppnm

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@CountJ0ecool https://t.co/9w29m39pIa https://t.co/wxOAVmtvgG

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 6 years ago

latest version some people have asked for a PDF (idk why, but ok) you can have that one here: https://t.co/SY3Oi82hF5 https://t.co/fKBnf7btzs

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Fuck but I need to channel the manic pixie ADHD dream energy to build me one of those. I blame my tools, but the only one who's to blame here is my self. Twitter has been surprisingly close to semi-long shortform writing. Will find a better UI; I'm sure you have one in there

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv I think I start with SAVE THE WORLD and work backwards from there

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv actually second idea I have three potential candidate open source projects to work on and I need help focusing my attention fallback: will consult the bones

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@visakanv bones said: Do the first two, the third will look unusual https://t.co/942OFmppnm

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I for one need better tools. Where's Hephaestus when you need him?

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6/24/2020
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Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv What's your take on the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics? The linear superposition of Visa?

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @dbabbitt

@dbabbitt Lol I don’t really have one

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Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv You are dealt the cards you have to work with, but the other Visas get dealt other cards, all possible combinations. So at least one of you has nothing to complain about. :-)

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @dbabbitt

@dbabbitt @visakanv Only one of us needs to reach the goal line, ever, for light to triumph over darkness That we are here at all is proof of this There's really nothing to fear so long as one of us is here

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv Now I observe that Visa is just fine without quantum metaphors. It might help him connect with people who speak physics marginally better, but the EVEN better way to do that is to point him at people who've already started to articulate things that way

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv This is the closest one I have on hand: https://t.co/M1NrPxxixY Cantide has more, though he's very fractal and less good at marketing than Visa, so you'll have to do some work to translate between the two. If you see anything interesting I can try to conduit as best I can

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv I'm not sure if we're friends in a non-metaphysical sense, but I grok he jive well enough to connect this dot to that one too https://t.co/p0eottIVSM Chaos isn't a ladder it's a NETWORK and WE ARE THE BRAIN

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvβ€’ over 5 years ago

You don’t actually need to grow a huge twitter yourself, you can just be friends with me and I can introduce you. β€œFriend of Visa” is an international network of friendly nerds https://t.co/AgbYATqs3Y

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Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@CountJ0ecool @visakanv I think this is the best explanation I have ever read that takes the sting out of determinism.

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @dbabbitt

@dbabbitt @visakanv thanks I'm here all week unless I die in my sleep because the demons eat me for saying too much jk only angles do taht

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv in case I die before I wake here's a little tip to take One way to frame this is that the universe is fractal and splitting because of many-worlds. In manyworlds, quantum suicide is a natural extrapolation from the premise https://t.co/fvo7GhhWzi

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago

@quickdrawyall @maybegray Systemic thinking has tons of implicit information. Structure alone provides incredible amounts of data via generative processes. Given two data points I could give you 100 data points following one "simple" generative ruleset. Only 100 cause ppl dont let me keep going that long.

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv Meaning, if you observe yourself in universe-A, that's where you wound up. You could zig or za- ok it was zig, now conditioning on that basis Question: what does this does to the size of the OBSERVABLE universe?

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv answer: if you care about the future -= AND I DO =- then it counterintuitively SHRINKS as you observe more of it this is initially, quite terrifying

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv question: what is outside of the observable universe? Define observable. Light cone extruded from a reference frame. Implication: by including the future, we have a space of all possible universes reachable from a pre-existing point

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv surprise it's not an answer only more questions (infinite game, remember?) philosophy question this time: is the unobservable universe "real"? Is it "really there?"

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv Answer: of course! What happens when two adjacent light cones more forward in t, and begin to intersect? mOther fUcking MiRaClEs ok but seriously this is where my understanding of the physics breaks down, phone a friend. @Cantide1 ? I have prepared the altar now I summon thee

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv @Cantide1 while we wait for him let's shift from the physics to higher levels of organization that I'm more confident to speak on. Namely, human perception. Question: what is the nature of qualia?

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Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@CountJ0ecool @visakanv What is your take on crushing the universe? Something like quantum-tunneling in anti-baryons from the many-worlds, driving down the magnitude of Higgs field to produce a negative cosmological constant, allowing us to use gravitational shear as an energy source, etc.

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @dbabbitt

@dbabbitt @visakanv magic

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @dbabbitt

@dbabbitt @visakanv I think I only understand 1/3rd of those but, my take is that there's two forces at play: shrink + stretch

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv shrink: collapse waveforms make observations, look around you, see where you've wound up there's less now uh oh running out of infinity?

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv my lightcone is getting real narrow rn so I have to go be mysterious elsewhere stay curious my friend I will get back to you when I can continue the work be voracious and learn all you can be ready for when the dawn breaks

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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv stretch: GROW you cannot do this alone you need something external some other object in motion outside of your t=0 reference frame that interacts with you at t>0 will do the trick

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6/24/2020
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J0eCool@CountJ0ecoolβ€’ about 5 years ago
Replying to @CountJ0ecool

@dbabbitt @visakanv if the higgs has pixie dust on it that would legit solve all the problems

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