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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

I was gonna call it a day on talking about magical powers but I feel like this is a sign to talk more about magical powers https://t.co/Zlxg3Pis5f

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Ok so first up when I say magical powers I mean it in a rather colloquial, casual sense. I don’t mean *literal* supernatural powers like X-Men. I’m talking about skills that, hypothetically, anybody should be able to develop, but in practice, seem rare https://t.co/QbyYDMpBlb

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

@brianluidog Not quite what I’m talking about; thanks for the opportunity to clarify. I’m talking about people who seem like they almost have magical powers

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

In fact I think a degree from an accredited institution may actually limit your “magical powers” if you’re not careful, because you’re being schooled by a syllabus that’s quite possibly obsolete the moment it’s written down https://t.co/4OCabbPbBD https://t.co/02goodxXQy

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

🤔 magic is curiosity + attentiveness + persistence + willingness to revise and re-evaluate everything 🤔

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

And it only *seems* magical because the average person is not very curious, not very attentive, not very persistent and not very willing to revise and re-evaluate everything 🤔🤔🤔

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

Sometimes you get 1 or 2 of those qualities - eg some thinkbois re-evaluate their whole existence every week but don’t persist at anything beyond that Some hustlebois cargo-cult persistence without reevaluating anything - end up spending decades pushing at doors marked Pull

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I’m surprised I haven’t seen made like an app or guide or online course or something to help people really internalize this WaitButWhy blogpost, it’s very well done IMO https://t.co/4OCabbPbBD https://t.co/MoaRuknq8k

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

And do you know who are all of those things!!!! Children!!! And do you know what we do to them!!!! Beat it out of them!!!! https://t.co/CpBcyMBO8y

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

And it only *seems* magical because the average person is not very curious, not very attentive, not very persistent and not very willing to revise and re-evaluate everything 🤔🤔🤔

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

I made myself sad again https://t.co/0rmIbpvE0c

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 7 years ago

To me, school today is like medicine before people learned about germ theory and hand-washing. Creative souls die every day and most people shrug the way they must’ve when women and children used to die in childbirth. Leaves from the vine... https://t.co/EnrzXNXgt1

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

it can seem like magic https://t.co/hORAmOWwtb

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

What I have taught myself to do, as a nerdy marketing guy who is philosophy-curious, is to invent status and social capital out of seemingly thin air. It can look like magic, but it’s just dumpster diving, like selling bargain-bin clothes at a markup on eBay, Girlboss style https://t.co/LQ3np6j11I

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

kinda wish I could do threads like this https://t.co/xZXkb74hHC

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I am adamantly against school for a myriad of reasons and it's deeply intertwined in one of my core ethos on learning and education.But you know what's funny? I suspect the idea that it beats creativity out of children is an artifact of hindsight bias and survivor bias.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Tho I also do not go on to consider it an innate trait either as I know fully well it's a muscle that I have exercised.I believe there is something we are missing that can be used to rekindle that magic, creativity and agency in people that our dislike of education is missing.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv This space seems more complex than more common narratives about schools being a soul suck lets on.I haven't been able to articulate it.My sense is that school may be driving more creative rebellion in some cases, squashing it in others.https://t.co/ryEEia3VgZ

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Like a distortion or a filter of a sort. But this raises questions in my about the shape of the complex object that it is acting upon.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv I feel like all the takes we have about this space are about the individual expereinces. Even this blog post ist about personal goals agency. https://t.co/j1TW8oudikBut I know you see how it is also social structure and ideas between mutual that drive this space forward.

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

I’m surprised I haven’t seen made like an app or guide or online course or something to help people really internalize this WaitButWhy blogpost, it’s very well done IMO https://t.co/4OCabbPbBD https://t.co/MoaRuknq8k

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv So I suspect a part of this is a lack of freedom to self-select. Being forced to interact with classmates that drive subtle antagonistic behaviors and other such phenomena where children create hierarchical power structures amongst themselves to cope.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv One of the most freeing and intellectually rewarding things I've been able to do outside of school is to choose my friends and work on choosing my own peers who are a better fit for my interests.What would a school look like that did this?

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv I'm trying to rethink this space.https://t.co/SVHGoqHh1g

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Science Banana@literalbanana• over 6 years ago

Imagine if compulsory education was just an elaborate escape room that almost all of us failed

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Why do some children survive with these intact and not others? It's clearly possible.Do all children really start out this way? Is it really only school that reinforces the decline here?I don't think this is the complete picture of what is going on.https://t.co/c7I9iaeJBf

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 6 years ago

Every child is a natural dancer, poet, salesperson, yogi, musical thespian (see thread) until they get thrown in prison. We celebrate the few that survive with their creativity intact https://t.co/6KMGO3lVs3

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Certainly being thrown in child prison isn't helping. But if we are to undo the damage, I feel like we must look outside of the tunnel vision we've got from the trauma there and see this creativity and agency more holistically.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Alas, I am left with more questions than answers here.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Tho I'm leaning toward a model where schools are a cargo cult. If so, can we upgrade it?https://t.co/qBlM8zABQL

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv "How to make the [magic] flow again? The [parents] had observed that, just before [magic] arrived, the [magi] performed elaborate rituals involving inscrutable [educational] paraphernalia. Clearly, these summoned the [teachings] that brought [magic]."https://t.co/kchL32s2Ao

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv I really only have one thought that I apply over and over again to everything, but it's a really powerful question.What if its actually a problem of gut bacteria? But we blame the stress we feel on the things in the environment we react to.https://t.co/05ZDGYqYdw

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 4 years ago

@eigenrobot Lots of stuff from before 2019 highlights increased rates in school https://t.co/bG5Q0IRybpWhich coincides with loss of recess time. Apparently we need studies https://t.co/560bCRGe6O and laws https://t.co/zoduiqzlzh to tell us to give kids time outside in fresh air.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv It highlights a kind of prevalent misthinking in this space. We see a child not liking school and we conclude it must be some kind of psychological disorder.https://t.co/LCItFRQP27

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv Looking back now, i realized that all of the stresses I had were tied to my health issues. But at the time it felt like anger and frustrating on other students and the environment not working for me.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv At the time I could not tell you that my problems with the bus ride were because of sensory processing problems. I just hated being forced to be on the bus ride.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv The anger I felt toward teachers over the bathroom were from having an over active bladder that they thought was me trying to ditch class. I just thought they were being too strict.The underlying cause was beyond me. I only saw it from a lens of oppression.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv The panic I would feel in the lunchroom and the dread of being forced to participate in large events? This was most likely a heightened response to CO2 in my lungs making it worse for me than other students.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv But I didn't know about CO2 concentrations being absolutely insane in the lunchroom at my school. I just felt dread and frustration. The loss of agency was what I railed against.https://t.co/iM2x2dxp4K

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv The "vomiting from stress" that I was having at home? No that wasn't from the social anxiety, I was literally experiencing crohns. But it was overlooked because it correlated with changing from gradeschool to middle school. https://t.co/DxMRoBn6Zz

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv But I was told (and believed) that it was the stresses of school and the problems I was facing. I believed it wholesale and it fit my mental model and lived experiences.But it was a distortion.

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@visakanv What if we're wrong?https://t.co/FGCWDv0kUZ

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

co-sign https://t.co/Jr8nI8kFgQ

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Guy IS IN NYC!!!@nosilverv• over 1 year ago

I think a lot of """magical""" stuff, including but not limited to, so-called, "Reality Distortion Fields", are the same as, or at least in part include, strategic or accidental, discovered or cultivated, awareness differences arbitrage

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anita@neats29• over 5 years ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv I agree! Everytime I recommend it to someone they don't read it because it's long. But it's gold! I'm gonna have a think about what I can do about this. I've summarised a couple of his posts on my blog before. Maybe that'll be a start.

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