Community Archive

🧵 View Thread

🧵 Thread (106 tweets)

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

One possible reason we think that genes predisposing for intelligence also encode for depression is because the smarter rats learn quicker that if they stop squirming when hung by their tails they are let out of the torture chamber faster by their care takers.

18 1
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

That or genes that encode for intelligence also might affect metabolic function and so they tire out faster when they are forced to swim until they can't anymore in the rat drowning test.

7 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm probably wrong about both of these, but the larger point I'm making is that no one even bothers to control for this stuff.

9 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A weird take on the rat drowning depression experiment is that they might be measuring extent which a rat's intestine generates gas; Could rats float like tiny manatees or sloths? What we're actually measuring is inflammation associated with fat deposition and fart generation.

7 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The real reason we encourage people to eat more fiber is it'll turn everyone into witches. It'll help you float.How does one measure buoyancy? I have lost a lot of weight, but I think I might be able to float b/c of an adaptation: crohn's disease's impact on gut microbes. https://t.co/9yyXfppWMt

Tweet image 1
3 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The aquatic ape theory, but with farts.

5 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

... I'm looking up if ants can float on an individual basis (if they are large enough).I found the answer in the image pun on 'gender-fluid'. https://t.co/KDZewS6fdN https://t.co/PCuccZzUmV

Tweet image 1
5 1
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I am now investigating if crohn's disease is gender-neutral phenomena, on suspicion that IBS in women is a misdiagnosis in women.I was talking to my gram about her crohn's. Her pain was ignored as 'woman issues' until point that she almost had to have her intestines removed.

3 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

After a quick look at bunch of surveys: I still have a non-zero weight it might be a misdiagnosis: women are more likely to get diagnosed as they age.Might be caused by assuming it's period cramps?https://t.co/MznQGMh3Rshttps://t.co/5ZGRPsBz79https://t.co/l4teU08qryNot sure.

2 1
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A guy with a cyborg intestinal tract mused how the larger chamber caused him to float."in the bath would function as a buoyancy aid that drew my hips up to the surface of the water."https://t.co/oV1BAf29Nv

4 2
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"stretching 20ft from mouth to anus, air and light at each end, an ingenious pipework that incorporated oesophagus, stomach, small intestine, ileum, colon and rectum, and contained 100m nerve cells or neurons, more than in the spinal cord, as well as 95% of the body’s serotonin."

2 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Remember that time I predicted that I had crohn's after a lot of research stemming from being inspried by shitposting about bananas? https://t.co/c61RFDAnVQ

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 9 years ago

Whoa, is this true?https://t.co/tXC4XklIUj https://t.co/etIsSbdEhT

Quoted tweet image 1
2 0
1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The aquatic ape theory suggest our immune system evolved to help us float. 😂https://t.co/sV9Ny20WEF

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 7 years ago

"The immune system was not evolved to protect us? This seems counter-intuitive. We see that the immune system is absolutely essential to survival in a world of infectious agents, and we conclude that it was selected to prevent disease."https://t.co/JcKYQyiSrK https://t.co/IsoF0zqubD

Quoted tweet image 1
2 0
1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

If you were a sloth who's main way of cruising for chicks was floating down river, you'd also want to protect your flotation giving poop and avoid excreting it as long as possible.https://t.co/eIcXdIa9if

0 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Some say sloth's pooping rituals are an evolutionary mystery.https://t.co/tohtmWRIi4

0 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

You aren't supposed to talk about sloth fight club guys, come on!"To know that he can interact with other sloths he’s never met—and then fight them and win—is amazing."https://t.co/Fff3KvQLrq

1 1
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Tired: raising roosters to fight.Wired: Sloth fight clubs, powered by science!

1 1
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

A female sloth screams when she smells the musky sent of a male's piss.https://t.co/ve119fP4xQHAHAHhttps://t.co/skBXKlET0E

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 8 years ago

@beckycliffe06 I think algea in fur is a red herring - actual reason for it is they pee on themselves and high ammonia is like how lions signal territory?

0 0
2 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

We rethought serotonin signaling once. From "turning mice gay" to "this is just aggression & dominance behavior playing out". Just take it a step further."more mice will [be tortured] before scientists figure out exactly what role serotonin plays." https://t.co/fRh9F4Jq6t

3 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

How many status moats will I need to destroy before the games we play over serotonin's role in depression is undermined? This suggest that there are many.https://t.co/8OxR4gYfdm

3 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Rethinking the foundations to fell the ivory towers. A house of cards if I've ever seen one.https://t.co/I3WuS3OPQT

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

I added "Stories masked in a cocoon of insight porn and body horror." to my bio here a while back b/c fundamentally I see what I am doing is finding + inventing alternative narratives on how we view the world. An attempt model as many minds as possible. https://t.co/3Lo0tAPEX8

1 0
1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Building scientific castles on sand and wondering why the ideas are falling into the encroaching ocean's wavefront.https://t.co/onIurRhZbU

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

In @KevinSimler's explorative model of how networks interact to spread information https://t.co/A2SWThqKae his exploration of the way that incumbent (The "careerist") disrupt is fundamentally a wave-break phenomena? https://t.co/0p7vsjmNfE

5 1
1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

It blows my mind that I can just bullshit my way into creating theories with more predictive power than most psychological research out there.

6 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

You ever say something interesting and someone goes and writes a paper on it?https://t.co/7gzOBLZuw1

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 8 years ago

.@MADinMelbourne I don't know. Bees are basically just flying sex toys for plants. I'd rather be the plant. https://t.co/fLfCunhGkO

2 1
4 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What is really interesting is the method I used to find people who write about my ideas for me.https://t.co/MQ4DlgzuOm

1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Years of general scientific consensus on how living and extinct sloths evolved and are related may be inaccurate, according to new research." (That also might explain why some sloths float, and others don't)https://t.co/ifUI9k50vn

1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Scientists have long speculated that humans killed and devoured ground sloths—but, for many years, there was no physical evidence to support this idea. Then, in 2008, incriminating scars were found on the femur of an Ohio Megalonyx."2008!https://t.co/JR5dDtk8r7

2 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I basically doubt everything we know about history that comes from museums.I even doubt Darwin himself, tho he did seem to move the discussion forward.https://t.co/f2B0byOmHt

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 7 years ago

Studying Darwin's early childhood and collegiate career, you quickly see how Museums influenced his early habits of collecting and identifying species of plants. A cultural interest in fossils and working in museums influenced how he was able to reach conclusions that he made.

3 1
1 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The trick is that I don't call them fairy tales to demean their utility; I actually think fairy tales are more powerful as a way to impart meaning and reason than most people give credit.https://t.co/HiIVfc1Mbv

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

Some stories are incomplete. Fairy tales existing if only to serve as placeholders for a future generation to untangle.https://t.co/Rwx47ok7rY

0 0
8 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Useful fictions.https://t.co/q3pPnAnrDy

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 8 years ago

@mmay3r @naval I prefer the terms: 'useful fictions', and 'broken rules of thumb'

12 0
5 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wash my hands [in] this weirdness:https://t.co/VfpCK4gGNj

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 9 years ago

"In a world where your imagination, rather than your context, is the limiting factor..." https://t.co/V6MKgB8Ycf

6 0
0 0
6/9/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

All these questions, no answers.https://t.co/TJRnRmtXtY

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago

I wonder how many models of evolution in computer science are riffing off of myths and misunderstandings.Ring species wasn't really even validated until 2012! Allopatric speciation (darwin's finches) might even be a result of collaboration between gut microbes and host!

3 0
0 0
7/1/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Thinking about torturing mice by trying to see if I can breed ones that float better. Wondering if drug trails that test depression in rats might be flawed if the rat has a lot of gas.https://t.co/HM5LIgLrqO

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

How many drugs were tested on mice, but didn't work because it was metabolized by their gut before it could enter their bloodstream?https://t.co/RxUUCoCwRF

6 0
0 0
7/3/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I went swimming a few days ago. I turns out I am no longer a witch. My loss of adipose tissue combined with increased muscle tone, combined with fixing Crohn's related stomach gas means I sink like a brick.

0 0
7/3/2019
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"It is not clear whether mice stop swimming because they are despondent or because they have learnt that a lab technician will scoop them out of the tank when they stop moving." [July 2019]https://t.co/vkiKZmv74jhttps://t.co/4JcsUrG1yn

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

One possible reason we think that genes predisposing for intelligence also encode for depression is because the smarter rats learn quicker that if they stop squirming when hung by their tails they are let out of the torture chamber faster by their care takers.

18 1
2 0
7/16/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Imagine the headlines: Drug that gives mice ability to float thru gut microbiota disruption and resulting gas production heralded as miracle depression cure.

0 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

oh no https://t.co/OApSrZN0Wt

Tweet image 1
0 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

mice farts cure depression!

0 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I need to make more jokes, they all come true.https://t.co/uw4hurXn0z

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

I'm probably wrong about both of these, but the larger point I'm making is that no one even bothers to control for this stuff.

9 0
1 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

In going thru her medical history, it seems my GF didn't start gaining weight until the doctors put her on an SSRI. That was also the time she struggled with motivation.Would be really funny if gut microbiota impact reward pathways or something.https://t.co/r4DwNvYcl0

4 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Looks like I am going to single handedly take down the entirety of the western medical institution in my quest to cure autism and stop my GF of dying from kidney failure.Sorry.https://t.co/3mZxhd0ROi

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

I will destroy the foundations of modern science if it means I can fix my demons, so help me god.https://t.co/8jhyHDOkCM

5 0
9 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

SSRI use might be partly causal factor for alzheimershttps://t.co/Z2RZrJeimxWith noted population level risk increasehttps://t.co/WWwicXWhR7

4 2
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

known gut bacteria disrupting chemicals change brain in surprising ways https://t.co/myHWLxKi1nIt's almost like something interesting is going on.

3 0
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Sertraline apparently causes brain fog issues similar to what we would expect if making the rats dumb make them swim longer, and might also trigger mania, which would make them swim longer.https://t.co/l6xGg5gwwr

4 2
7/17/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Samehttps://t.co/ietfp2NQ52

2 0
7/19/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"It is not clear whether mice stop swimming because they are despondent or because they have learnt that a lab technician will scoop them out of the tank when they stop moving. Factors such as water temperature also seem to affect the results."https://t.co/vkiKZmv74j

1 0
10/28/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Wanna bet stressed rats enter ketosis state and swim longer because they were generating more heat and se oxygen more efficiently during a semi-starved state?https://t.co/op0AGGMdLb

1 0
10/28/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Brief periods of food manipulation, in combination with multiple other stressors, are used in the chronic mild stress (CMS) model of depression.4,6,9,16,19,21,23"https://t.co/womSvnpXx1So...https://t.co/ZKmIkoDjGo

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

"show that, [...] taxonomic composition and functions of mouse gut microbiota converge in independent high‐altitude environments and propose the intriguing hypothesis that some of these functional convergences might be beneficial to their host." [2019]https://t.co/vYynb9I9iQ

1 0
1 0
10/28/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Hypobaric hypoxia exposure therefore induces depression-like behavior in female rats, but not in males."https://t.co/R7vXPbKKXC

1 0
10/28/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Oh ok, so you use food stress to cause changes in the animal to mimic stress situation because it impacts stress hormones. Do we have an accurate model of rat's fasting biology & thermal regulation?Turns out we probably don't.https://t.co/bF8eGyQxWE https://t.co/IO6TPodNfK

Tweet image 1
2 0
10/28/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The more I dig into animal models the more horrified I get.

2 0
10/28/2021
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Good summary of brain fog. I say this having suffered with it for years and having family who have the same.https://t.co/By3WWSZehl

3 1
9/13/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Tired: kids takin Adderall for adhd are on meth.Wired: kids on Wellbutrin for depression are on bath salts.Inspired: Most major pharmacological remedies might be accidentally directly treating gut problems and this may show up in mice studies. https://t.co/xstGR2qjCX

4 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

All my brain can say right now is "Freudian butt pucker".https://t.co/HBTqLI2iT4

0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Is cocaine a cathione? Would that make mice swim longer and so show up as a viable 'treatment' for depression? @OhMalG https://t.co/vPoRSbuHAD

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

I am not trying to glorify drug use. I'm trying to say Freud's thinking is not a good model for understanding psychological disease. Just so we're clear. https://t.co/aLhTbvweqF

Quoted tweet image 1
0 0
1 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I love that I realized my intrusive thoughts are a form of Hyperthymesia applied to language, cuz now when words like "Freudian butt pucker" echo thru my head I am not as bothered by them.It's an idea I wrote in my tweets!https://t.co/LaB4o90457

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago

Freudian butt pucker: anal retentiveness measured via sphincter based EEG muscle detection.I wonder if I can get a buttplug to measure EEG/EMG and see if things twitch when I'm drunk and/or tired.Intrusive thoughts my ass.

2 0
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

hmm. HMMM.https://t.co/I2RxmT4NLD

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago

Now @nsreed is insisting that the butt plug is essential because we need to know the exact volume of gas production. And I'm remembering that I know how to build this for humans.https://t.co/d16EDBg2yK

1 0
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

inb4 "the subconscious" is just autistic infodumping behavior that happens when you are around trusted psychologists long enough to feel safe (oxytocin).https://t.co/zVBoR2L6Uk

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

"Freud loved the way cocaine made him feel. [...] For one, it did make him feel better when he was sad.He also was amazed at how it made him talk about things endlessly that he thought were locked away in his brain."https://t.co/5OQVRmuRji

1 0
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I was getting that state from Crohn's Disease related anxiety. https://t.co/hFBZZQ0VZO

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago

I went to bed shortly after that last tweet, then woke up 7 hours later with scary idea in my head.I wonder if this is 'automatic writing'? I know I was clanging pretty hard, so it's probably nonsense to everyone else until I can back fill the thoughts.https://t.co/d3kc2UMhaG

0 0
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Diarrhea of the mouth, lol.What is displacement behavior? for $1000 alex.https://t.co/wOefJPFVW0

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 9 years ago

I do all my best work when I'm avoiding something really big in my life.What if that's good?What if that's bad? https://t.co/4QTmFVKwcI

Quoted tweet image 1
19 2
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Something I think a lot about is how MDMA was first described as "a years worth of psychotherapy in 6 hours"...Oxytocin boosting chemical that changes neuroplasticity?https://t.co/DaTe5JBsxm

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

"To investigate which mechanism may be involved, we studied the hippocampus, [...] MDMA consumption could affect memory process by altering the neuroplasticity in the brain." https://t.co/kaOKUIGhFXhttps://t.co/eDSSNaRADw

2 0
1 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Its really fun to me to undermine basic axioms of an entire field of thought. https://t.co/OD2CqMVn3p

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

TFW: Reading a science publication that suggests the efficacy of Talk Therapy is on par with taking SSRIs, and then realizing that I could just eat bacteria shit and cure my treatment resistant depression. https://t.co/jN5azdd0ep

13 2
1 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

By pretending I'm Freud's dog smelling his bullshit.https://t.co/HoQHOxSukW

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago

@nosilverv Freud mistook some earlier thoughts about people eating feces as sublimation to societal desires. Freud was wrong. He as looking at gut microbiota development and dysbiosis.His dog could smell it, lol.https://t.co/K2vRJyVUs5

0 0
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Infodumping about taking a dump.Literal figurative shitposts about Lacanian psychoanalysis.https://t.co/tX8ctzqqCW

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

@Nuclear_Circus @Rahmeljackson On the contrary, doing it as un-seriously as I can.Contemplating taking dump while squatting over a mirror to reflect on the nature of the the embodiment of the self as the felt experience of living. https://t.co/9KqyMCEyPz

2 1
0 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Looking for a reference about druggies being really good at finding medicinal plants and other psychotropics... but can't find it.Instead, here's an idea that fascinates me.https://t.co/TxFqSQ4Ejv

1 0
9/14/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Low serotonin in mice, monkeys, & humans all correlate with being an abusive bully.https://t.co/K51kTJQLJuinb4 gut bacteria's production of serotonin is responsible for intergenerational social defeat stress and related epigenetic changes impact mood.https://t.co/sphPcVZYiX

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

Did you know lobsters are related to grasshoppers thru serotonin pathways?Lobster hierarchies aren't some preordained social construct, they're what happens when insects try to eat each other.https://t.co/QXc9KVzZVO

2 0
5 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm going to prove I'm right that impacting gut bacteria with SSRIs drives anger and aggression and people gonna be really mad at me when it turns out to cause school shootings.https://t.co/Di847HNuQl

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 5 years ago

Oddly, this many SSRIs doesn't work for OCDBut one that do (Clomipramine) block SERT.So mutations in SLC6A4 may be more of a factor than generalized mutations in serotonin receptors.https://t.co/pyrVvY9ZNp

0 0
7 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"revealed that low brain serotonin made communications between specific brain regions of the emotional limbic system of the brain (a structure called the amygdala) and the frontal lobes weaker compared to those present under normal levels of serotonin."https://t.co/oW1RaelmlR

3 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I bet this effect is driven by gut bacteria impacting the way mice smell and modulating aggression via a kinship pheromone tied to serotonin processes in the gut.https://t.co/bHc8RcAPqo

3 1
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Being around other mice also mean they eat each other's shit and spread microbes around.Should be easy to test with standard FMT / germ free mice study design.

2 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Trying to figure out how to make people spontaneously shit themselves, for reason.https://t.co/CAEbXt0G5O

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago

If smell of sick people can cause contagious preemptive immune responses to trained stimulus like we see in mice... Can smell of gut disease cause people to pre-emptively clear out their bowels?https://t.co/x23OPNiuP3

3 0
1 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

*sniffs*Smells like gut immune interplay.https://t.co/nQdpZWRpmn

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 6 years ago

But the larger idea is that humans have a tweakable immune system.I wonder if human's sense of smell operates on a similar system as mice.https://t.co/1L9KxxYj5Q

2 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Gonna make a better mouse trap by making the mice happy.https://t.co/Cysanx1z4E

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 9 years ago

I wonder if this makes them panic. Other mice smell the panic in their urine. https://t.co/C2p1uPKY2j

1 0
1 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Smell and taste shifts thru social contact with shared microbiota in a mouse colony?https://t.co/aPXfWIedq7

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

@SuezLab "As another example, germ-free mice—which have no gut microbes—have altered taste receptors on their tongues. When they are given a microbiota, those receptors change, and the mice change their food preferences." https://t.co/JaM6e2h3zpTaste and smell changes.

0 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What if it's a fear response. if the mouse gets afraid of things that are foreign to it... and then decides to attack instead of flee?https://t.co/Rz8VvrdCE6

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 6 years ago

Quanta Magazine has an article detailing advancements in fear extinction and learning as it relates to mice + microbes.https://t.co/IC8K0nerrWCites:https://t.co/eeTfyovHSqhttps://t.co/Nz4dCtU6S7https://t.co/Suhp3ySGCq https://t.co/U06JsyoExA

Quoted tweet image 1
0 1
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

And they get stuck there, unable to not fixate on the fear. Like some kind of rumination. https://t.co/3njh7KpHRt

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 5 years ago

"[…] discontinued the shocks, the ordinary mice gradually learned not to fear the sound. But [those] with depleted or nonexistent microbiomes, the fear persisted — they remained more likely to freeze at the sound of the tone than the untreated mice did"https://t.co/t4AqXKcxd5

5 1
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Aggression driven by parasite thru gut dysbiosis?https://t.co/C8p1VT7qh8

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago

There's a bunch of studies exploring aggression & bullying behavior in lab mice. People go as far as to trace it to dopamine+ testosterone (with ties to fear/scent via T Gondii), but neglect to explore dopamine in the gut, nor Testosterone's impact on the mice's immune system.

2 0
1 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

What happens to mice piss when they are infected with T Gondii... Or is it that they can't smell it and get lost, so wander in the open?https://t.co/SBu6f4O5wt

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 6 years ago

I also figured out how mice work well enough that I got really good at catching them. I figured out a while back how to do it in a humane way ( https://t.co/OeuqOS9CyQ ) and I think I might be able to control mice via their urine.https://t.co/RjgjV50pMe

2 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

"But that was not the case: the mice remained as unperturbed by cat odour as they had been at three weeks. “Long after we lose the ability to see it in the brain, we still see its behavioural effect,” says geneticist Michael Eisen, also at Berkeley." https://t.co/VMGrJvN8VA

0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Scent is epigenetic ;)

0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm just running my model of this space in reverse. How do I undo what I did? https://t.co/19yDZ6D7zW

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 6 years ago

Trying to figure out how to decondition myself from fear & anxiety.Everybody's doing this whole sensory acclimation thing using stimulus pairing and neurofeedback. But it was taking too long for me.So I ate some bacteria poop to enhance learning.https://t.co/ZRzOHRm9h8

5 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

The freeze response we see in mice is a gut bacteria modulatable response, fite me.https://t.co/WhYIROPVjK

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

@nosilverv @yashkaf @msutherl @MechanicalMonk1 @natural_hazard "Freeze" response is a misunderstanding of learned helplessness.It's literally wrong. https://t.co/3OkbL8Oz1G

0 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wonder how regular cannibalism is among captive scientific mice, and if we assume it's normal and don't realize it is because we feed them poorly.https://t.co/nNVkTZTX8l

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago

Do you ever wonder if you can explore [serotonin's role in why hamsters eat each other] as a proxy method to investigate [why immune system changes in termites lead to cannibalism as a illness defense system]?Why not?https://t.co/HnWr07OumP

0 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

ah. AHHHHH. no."in laboratory mouse breeding colonies, the loss of pups due to cannibalism is a common issue—so common, in fact, that it is often overlooked or accepted as normal." https://t.co/eSGvIY4XPJI already knew that.https://t.co/yyvSBxWvWT

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago

@GRITCULT If you want happy mice utopias, you need to reduce stress AND boost nutrition. If you fail at either one, they literally start eating each other.https://t.co/eSGvIXNmYb

1 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

*squeeks and runs away*https://t.co/mtAjxl8hLy

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 9 years ago

I want to recreate John B. Calhoun's work but with an eye toward complex system modeling of genetic variation to make population predictions

5 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I'm sure the mice are fine.https://t.co/4Xbia2DNqb

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 4 years ago

Watching gene edited mice lick themselves like they are the anxious 'pretty ones' in Calhoun's experiments. But they're gene edited/specially breed BALB/c mice whos immune systems don't support right kind of gut microbes to act as viable proxy for real world gut-immune interplay. https://t.co/QKjdM6Oh8t

Quoted tweet image 1
0 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Don't mind me, just completing the work.https://t.co/UKxJqEaEtk

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

@MereMirabel "Nicodemus was an Uplifted Rat, one of the NIMH Escapees and the original leader of the Rosebush Colony. In the beginning, Nicodemus was a street rat, no different from other rats, aside from a higher-than-average sensitivity to the Power." https://t.co/Ow4duZAcEL https://t.co/3yzBJrI80z

Quoted tweet image 1
1 0
1 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Why are mice eating each other in labs? Must be climate change.https://t.co/g65L53ICyX

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 5 years ago

@GRITCULT There are also some strange things that occur due to pollution and noise that may also have epigenetics effects. I don't think it's all just about density induced stress. Calhoun's rat parks are actually a good example of reversing this problem. But myth.https://t.co/83agfBfnDe

1 0
4 1
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Kicking at the load bearing studies until all the mice fall out.https://t.co/i1IgLWnXUV

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 4 years ago

That's not just a bad study; that's a load bearing bad study. Entire industries are predicated on the delusion that this study is true. Why do you hate people being employed?

292 54
5 1
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I don't know why all these scientists are trying to figure out how to solve mazes. I wonder if they're lost and confused.https://t.co/mPoQkITXTv

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

Officially ignoring all conclusions derived from mice maze studies. https://t.co/Ji7G6kMYidhttps://t.co/oUfQokBB9B https://t.co/MmeapoeiL9

Quoted tweet image 1
0 0
1 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

I wonder how many scientifically induced myths about mice have crept their way into computer science. https://t.co/6jkBR3s0Yvhttps://t.co/0Jnn3CYoPR

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

"Shannon’s wry humor surfaces at the end of the Theseus film. He looks directly into the camera and notes that the method the mouse uses is mathematically guaranteed to “solve any possible maze.” And then, playfully, he traps the mouse in a single square."https://t.co/B4Akxgzq82 https://t.co/O6C1m9wo48

6 0
1 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

Pray to the gods of status."symbolism and importance of shrews and mice in the beliefs of the ancient Egyptians is well documented from later periods of Egyptian history, when they were often mummified and placed in little coffins" https://t.co/vlhovnnDzFhttps://t.co/hlSmiNe0nR

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapealmost 3 years ago

Sacrificing mice to the god of academic prestige in hopes they might bless you as a jobs creator.https://t.co/S2Jtx3GVqF

0 0
0 0
12/16/2022
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

I don't float anymore.https://t.co/FSQhn0X8R5

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 4 years ago

So, while you're over there talking shit about strawman mis-translations of ancient Sumerian healing rituals and various folklore. I'm stealman'ing them and figuring out how to literally heal wounds.And you'll call me a witch.https://t.co/eVPFV8W81r

6 0
0 0
7/4/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Inventing a pill that makes mice have bad gas so they float longer in depression testing tanks. If this also give them anxiety to boot, they will struggle longer on the tail-hanging test.*farts*

2 0
7/4/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

"Fecal microbiome transplant from infants exposed to antibiotics in early life (and sampled one month later) into mice led to increased aggression compared to mice receiving transplants from unexposed infants."https://t.co/wbWADU1U24https://t.co/wqph697hBA

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago

Would you care to bet?https://t.co/U3WcapHWsUhttps://t.co/TDZ7nmzoZF https://t.co/9dvDmRLS58

Quoted tweet image 1
2 0
2 0
9/25/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Funniest thing on this I heard was a person doing a F-to-M transition; complained about how it made them feel like they wanted to kill or fuck everything.What if this personalty effect is gut driven? https://t.co/sgV5fJDP3A

1 0
9/28/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Inb4 gut health impacts impulsivity https://t.co/M1aCJtBjzd

1 0
9/28/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

My fucking role models growing up is Mr Rodgers and Bob Ross. And my dad. A gentle giant.https://t.co/GLhdFveL8F

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago

The one thing I haven't been able to get control of is my aggression when i'm frustrated. I don't hurt anyone and I don't destroy my things anymore in my autistic 'retard rages', but I get scary. I need to learn to tame that beast within me.https://t.co/HrwIGoPVGw

1 0
1 0
9/28/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape12 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

*it's just society bruh*Society? my asshttps://t.co/iehNXuYO8P

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 3 years ago

@AndySwan @fwiles @pmarca I think I solved how FMT caused people's hair to regrow.Not sure what kind of hair loss Jada had, but Alopecia Universalis might be gut bacteria's impact on notch signaling. I've also got hunches on Androgenetic Alopecia and Alopecia Areata.https://t.co/xR6qL0xM0Z

1 0
1 0
9/28/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape11 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Humanized mice improperly process serotonin after antibiotics impact the donor's gut.https://t.co/EJ1k6dMe7p https://t.co/eQ2IiFtVjb

Tweet image 1
1 0
10/27/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape11 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

"The authors linked gut-derived serotonin to the creation of tolerance against allergens, suggesting that the pathway may play a role in the development of conditions such as asthma and food allergies." https://t.co/mnqtOYusjf

1 0
10/27/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape11 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

A natural experiment."The findings highlighted gut health benefits for 'pandemic babies' arising from the unique environment of lockdown including lower rates of infection and consequent antibiotic use, and increased duration of breastfeeding." https://t.co/jskDM8uRDi

2 0
10/27/2024
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape6 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

haha, oh wow.> "The situation of these rats scarcely seems one demanding fight or flight — it is rather one of hopelessness… the rats are in a situation against which they have no defense… they seem literally to ‘give up.’"https://t.co/z1huXo6Hkphttps://t.co/w3VkoBRUq0

1 0
3/6/2025
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape6 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Do you have hope?https://t.co/swPkW7ruky

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 8 years ago

When all the the world is 'Hurt', what gives you hope?In an empire of shit: grow resilience. Tell pain to fuck off.Harvest Baboon Organs: https://t.co/S5SD57RghS

Quoted tweet image 1
3 0
0 0
3/6/2025
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape6 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

What if the scientist are wrong, and actually the act of drowning and recovery changes their gut health thru a sort of gauntlet of stress?https://t.co/I4dzAXzJoo

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeover 1 year ago

"Biologist Kathleen McAuliffe dives into new research that suggests certain bacteria in your gut can influence major parts of who you are, from your personality to life-changing neurological disorders."https://t.co/ve2q5BmmVy https://t.co/9ECth4V1HZ

Quoted tweet image 1
2 0
0 0
3/6/2025
Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimape6 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

What is a normal rat?https://t.co/pElNeEHc1N

Placeholder
UltimApe@ultimapeabout 3 years ago

I'm Post Rat. In fact I'm into squirrels now. I figured out how to make them (and chipmunks) not afraid of me."One study used these scent markings to help overcome neophobia with lures by mixing grease, dust, hair and scent marks within urinary pillars."https://t.co/xzeIEgS2yJ https://t.co/GHoX8rSYYm

22 0
0 0
3/6/2025