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hermit the cat@hermittoday• 5 months ago

what’s a good explanation for why those head massagers only feel good when someone else uses them on you? how do prediction errors tie into that? https://t.co/ZiwHncn6WK

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bri@br___ian• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday this is where "prediction error" feels more like physics than anything usefully explanatory at normal scales to me but I'd guess we have some ongoing prediction error for distance/separateness and this does effective vagus nerve stimulation which hits the intimacy button

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7/23/2025
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Rob Rumble@rumblerob• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday maybe relatedly: I can make them work okay when using them on myself, but only when I rotate them a little beforehand each time

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neuroblossom@neuroblossom• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday we might be wired to desensitize faster to self-stimuli for practical reasons eg wearing clothing.

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7/23/2025
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artair@circusvisitor• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday Because it's boring.

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7/23/2025
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hermit the cat@hermittoday• 5 months ago
Replying to @circusvisitor

@circusvisitor this only moves the question to "why is it boring?"

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7/23/2025
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janbam@janbamjan• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday probably the same reason why you can't tickle yourself. https://t.co/MHPbu5w0PF

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Sattvagenic@Shaivofuturist• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday Think it's cos your attention is divided between your hand motor movement and the feeling on your head. When someone else does it, you can get fully absorbed into the sensation.

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7/23/2025
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Athena Iver@AthenaIver• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday I think it has nothing to do with the tool itself, and everything to do with the psychological sensation of being cared for by another being. The same would be true for scratching your own back with your nails.

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7/23/2025
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Oooathmeal@seeared_faced• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday I believe that the relaxation caused by such instruments (which approximates massage's function) is central to fascia, and if you have to use a limb to use this, then it will not apply nicely BC it is trying to do mechanical "magic" to a tissue that gets tense at that same time.

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7/24/2025
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𓆩ꨄ︎𓆪@badblades• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday >the feeling of getting your nails done at the salon (treat) vs painting your own nails (chore)

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7/24/2025
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Eóin Walsh@eoinjwalsh• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday Picking up the other persons vibes? I wonder what would happen if we connected one with two “octopus ends” to two peoples heads at the same time? Has that ever been tried?🤔

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7/24/2025
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Matthew Pirkowski@MattPirkowski• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

For the same reason being God would be boring. Or, from an Active Inference perspective: when you close the causal loop, you’re no longer engaged in “epistemic foraging”, and the dopaminergic expectation hits stop coming. Or, comedically, for the same reason someone invented The Stranger (https://t.co/uNcidGxIDv).

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Shinkyū@durdfarm• 5 months ago
Replying to @hermittoday

@hermittoday They mimic someone else (an in-group member) picking lice from our hair, an activity that goes back millions of years.

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7/24/2025