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Patrick McKenzie@patio116 months ago

I’ve independently verified this, twice, and have to spoil the thread to say “Any photo outdoors can be trivially location matched in a fashion you’d assume would imply capabilities of an intelligence agency. If that is news to you, feel free to incorporate it into decisions.”

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போர்க்கருவி 2563 : : : Shakuntala Devi.-)@wrbldtm6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 blink twice.-)

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Harry Heymann 🥑@harryh6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 Did you take measures to ensure that its guess wasn't partially based on previously recorded knowledge it has on you? And or things like the ip address from whence the question came?

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Patrick McKenzie@patio116 months ago
Replying to @harryh

@harryh Yes; screenshotted to strip EXIF data and accessing from an IP in Chicago re: photos in Florida and Tokyo. (It did not articulate usage of knowledge I’m associated with my Tokyo neighborhood to inform guess, but that fact is abundantly publicly available.)

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Patrick McKenzie@patio116 months ago
Replying to @patio11

I put one indicative test case here and described another in the following post. You can presumably trivially reproduce with Kelsey’s prompt on your own photos if you want.

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anushk@anushkmittal6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 this is why i only post ghibli style ai generated images of nonexistent places.

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Patrick McKenzie@patio116 months ago
Replying to @patio11

If it’s getting lucky then OpenAI should sell this kind of luck:

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anushk@anushkmittal6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 very mindful and very demure models locating your crime

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Steven Sinofsky@stevesi6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 Just did this with a travel photo and the o3 steps were straight out of a Cold War screenplay.

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Grant Slatton@GrantSlatton6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 Recent viral thread with a ton of examples: https://t.co/tfGozthH6r

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henry@arithmoquine6 months ago

alright https://t.co/59DA0p3AE0

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Grant Slatton@GrantSlatton6 months ago
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@patio11 One of the takeaways was if your photo contains any mountains, the model is *extremely* good, i.e. it seems to be able to identify basically any ridgeline in the world https://t.co/DpoqXPzc7Y

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Grant Slatton@GrantSlatton6 months ago

@arithmoquine holy shit (this was taken at Alki Beach) https://t.co/PW6poIeWib

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Mullet-less Matthew@MattyBoySwag1436 months ago
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@patio11 It got Galveston TX wrong, which is surprising considering it's a popular tourist destination But it was only wrong by a few hundred miles (300-400), it guessed some other Texan vacation destination

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Joni@JoniLindstrm16 months ago
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@patio11 I took three pictures from the window of my house and it didn’t even get the country right

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Joseph Henderson@JosephZander6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 Conceptually, this involves thoroughly going through a long list of little clues and comparing them to an implicit database, it's exactly the sort of image-processing task we'd expect LLMs to be good at.

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SomeDude@Long20076 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 That makes sense to me but matching this particular photo so exactly is better than I would expect of an intel agency

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Azeem Azhar@azeem6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 i tried it couldn’t answer it

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Schizo Advisors@SchizoLLC6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 If you have an iPhone, check your photo app settings. Apple (and likely everyone else) is building/maintaining a database of photos to match features to known coordinates. This reverse location lookup will only get more accurate over time.

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Tristan Cunha@cunha_tristan6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

The prompt is very good, but I tried using this exact prompt and photo and O3 kept guessing Cape Cod for me https://t.co/mKCwOROeQJ Which it does look a lot like the National Seashore, but that's also relatively local for me. o3 apparently guesses the West coast more often for people on the west coast.

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Tristan Cunha@cunha_tristan6 months ago

@KelseyTuoc I just tried again with your prompt (which is excellent) and it narrowed it down to Cannon Beach, Oregon or Nauset Cape Cod, and went with the Cape after studying the pole and doing a lot of searches for that detail. I have to agree, this looks exactly like the outer cape :) https://t.co/PATTSsfsP5

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Ryan McGinnis@bigstormpicture6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

o3 deep research got this location within 25 miles. Even verified I stripped all metadata before uploading. Its thought process spent a lot of time thinking about tree species distribution and snow depth climatology. It did also give a list of possible places rather than a single location, but the first place it listed as the most likely was the correct answer.

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Orion Morales@MOOOOrion6 months ago
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@patio11 Totally failed for me.

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alex rubinsteyn@iskander6 months ago
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@patio11 I tried this vulture photo, which is from an obscure tiny wildlife refuge, hard to geolocate. I'm watching o3 go to crazy lengths to pin down the location -- writing OCR script in python, reasoning about sign text (which is a red herring), &c Finally picked one ~200 miles away https://t.co/88XVi2wWyJ

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michael@friendlyboxcat6 months ago
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@patio11 I do feel like this is something that should not be allowed by models.

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Mark Rizzn Hopkins@rizzn6 months ago
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I spent an hour last night going thru my photos where I had perfect recall or GPS metadata to test with o3. It got it 65% of the time, roughly. I was ACTIVELY trying to trick it. The ones that were failures, were often directionally correct. The worst failure was an airplane photo of the ground, which they pegged as on the way to SeaTac, instead of on the way to SFO. Most failures were off by no more than 3-4 miles.

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Elijah Ravitz-Campbell@ElijahRavitz6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 I just gave it a pretty detailed photo of downtown Berkeley taken from my front porch and it was unable to identify the location. It's interesting how even in this narrow domain it's effectiveness is very spikey/hit-and-miss.

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₿itcoin@NathanHiggerz6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 When @agilepeter had a partial view of the outside of his garage in a photo and I was like “this is a self dox” It’s really put a damper on my sharing photos from my porch because I get the most beautiful sunrises

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eigenspectra@eigen_spectra6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 It's significantly worse with photos from 3rd world countries

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The Education of O@Ed_of_O6 months ago
Replying to @patio11

@patio11 It could only get within 100-200 square miles of any image I sent it. But none had identifiable city locations in it. Still good, but professional OSINT people can usually do better than that.

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Elijah Ravitz-Campbell@ElijahRavitz6 months ago
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@patio11 I've now attempted to verify this two more times, and had it fail pretty badly twice. It's impressive, and when it succeeds it feels like magic, but we shouldn't exaggerate it's consistency.

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