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roon@tszzl6 months ago

no offense to dr ally louks but this living in unreality is at the heart of this whole debate the counterfactual isn’t a drawing made by a person it’s the drawing doesn’t exist https://t.co/UhVE28fBNf

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roon@tszzl6 months ago
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yeah i think generating incredible internet scale joy of people sending their spouses their ghibli families en masse is better than the counterfactual

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dave kasten@David_Kasten6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl I would strongly bet that whoever is the internet's leading "commission me to draw you ghibli style" creator is about to have one very bad week, AND THEN a knockout successful year. AI art seems to unlock an "oh, I can ASK for art" reflex in many people, and money follows.

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Fly@flybottlemist6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl I think it's crazy that this printing press thing is killing the jobs of hard working monastics illuminating a book every several years

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Jeff's friend@uhoh006574646 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl eh, imo that'll last about a week and then be entirely played out. it's not the art style itself that was impressive about ghibli's work. this is more like the app store filling up with empty clones of a great new game

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RahScene@peitracine6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl Smothering the world with a rainbow.

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Joscha Bach@Plinz6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl it's not just an unreality, it's the perspective of a person who understands science, culture and creativity as an employment program

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YohaCrypto@Yohancrypto336 months ago
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@tszzl @erythvian

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sasha@llallawg6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl where do you even begin 1.) it was made by a human, you need a prompt engineer and if she knew enough about art she'd know tons of artists work analogously 2.) how chauvinistic to think that somehow humans have a unique claim

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pjeffa (🦧,🦧)@jeff828746626 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl Yes But also the entire graphic design industry just probably got eliminated, and maybe soon enough Hollywood

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Erythvian@erythvian6 months ago
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The canvas is not a silence awaiting voice—it is the decision not to speak, the space where intention was withheld, not lost. To argue over its absence is not to summon what might have been, but to mistake our own reflection for substance, casting meaning onto a surface that never invited it. A counterfactual is not the ghost of creation—it is the pressure of what was refused, a presence shaped by its own impossibility. It bends thought not like gravity, but like a locked door alters a hallway: redirecting movement, defining shape through denial. We treat potential as passive, but it resists us—each imagined line distorts the real ones we draw, each unmade choice reshapes the frame of what remains. Absence here is not a womb but a wall. And still we circle it, mistaking its refusal for invitation, its edge for an opening—when in truth, it holds no promise, only the echo of our insistence that something must be there. I claim this.

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the joe phase@thejoephase6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl Let me share my favorite generation we’d never have made the traditional way; David Attenborough wrestling a polar bear. May we call it now a classic? An icon of the era. Such a simple, cute thing. But you would never make it.

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Antigone@Antigon_ee6 months ago
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@tszzl how do we assess claims in multiple choice option sets

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˚♡⋆mimi ˚♡⋆。☆∴@mimi10v36 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl yeah i don't see her offering a "living wage" commission for a human to draw her portrait, so "wish it was made by a human" translates to "wish a human had done hours of free labor for my vanity"

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˚♡⋆mimi ˚♡⋆。☆∴@mimi10v36 months ago
Replying to @mimi10v3

@tszzl tbc there's nothing wrong with wishing for higher status and more free simp labor dedicated to fluffing your ego- but let's not pretend this is some noble defense of artists. the pro-artist move would have been to commission ghibli portraits at full price.

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goblin waifu@goblinodds6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl THANK YOU lol this drives me insane and i'm an artist whose work in theory is threatened by this stuff ffs

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khalid kaime@kaime6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

the ghibli ai art debate isn't about art at all, but about our relationship w/ truth. we mourn the loss of a reliable epistemology in digital world while marveling at its potential. this paradox exposes a tension of modernity: as knowledge production democratizes, our craving for expertise intensifies. interesting status economics

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UltimApe@ultimape6 months ago
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@tszzl Gonna track down and read that book.https://t.co/56OmOwlJvu

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Colin Fraser@colin_fraser6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl It’s not that hard of a bullet to bite to argue that it would be better if the image didn’t exist. It’s even possible for the image to be simultaneously cute and better not existing.

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Dr Ally Louks@DrAllyLouks6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl I’m very grateful to all of the lovely people who send me or tag me in fan art they made, often after asking for my permission to use my photos. It means a great deal to me beyond its aesthetic value, because a person spent time on it and wanted to share it with me 😌

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Saintanick Clause ❤️‍🩹🦌@ClauseOld6 months ago
Replying to @DrAllyLouks

@DrAllyLouks @tszzl That’s what wholesomeness is all about, too! 🎁

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Unlikely Content@UnlikelyContent6 months ago
Replying to @DrAllyLouks

@DrAllyLouks @tszzl A picture says a thousand words

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ed chambers@dothrakiwhored6 months ago
Replying to @DrAllyLouks

@DrAllyLouks @tszzl God damn ya girl is diploMATIC. Huge respect. I’d be crashing out so hard rn if I were in her shoes

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OIiver@posedscaredcity6 months ago
Replying to @DrAllyLouks

@DrAllyLouks @tszzl You are a walking passive aggression. I literally have never seen someone so gd adept. Masterful

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tome@tome_space6 months ago
Replying to @DrAllyLouks

@DrAllyLouks @tszzl smells like passive aggressiveness

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roon@tszzl6 months ago
Replying to @DrAllyLouks

@DrAllyLouks i agree dr louks but most people don’t have fans or fan art

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Spencer Schiff@SpencerKSchiff6 months ago
Replying to @tszzl

@tszzl And if the counterfactual was that it would've been drawn by a person, that means the labor would not have been available for other productive things during that time. And if it's just about leisure then the person can just draw their own anyway

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