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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago

John Ott's work that informs much of circadian twitter's obsession with sunlight and biophoton theory... is wrong.

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8/5/2024
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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Or rather his stuff is incomplete. His experiments were done under the impacts of glass because he was working in a green houses.Dirt in greenhouses is not going to have the same soil bacteria and fungal colonies as wild plants.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

really pretty timelapses, https://t.co/kl4HQ5bDnjWhat happens if you don't account for soil biology that impacts the nutrient uptake of plants?

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

If the plant was trying t o take up a nutrient in response to a certain color of light, but the nutrient was missing, it would explain his findings where the flow of the plant's cells stopped. https://t.co/pi82zpw6tE

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

And I have dug thru every study that cites his work to try to see if anyone controlled for it. It's a myopia stemming from work that happened well before our collective appreciation of soil life.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

So his work is correct. but limited. Conclusions drawn from it need to take into account his lack of control for natural soil biology and natural nutrient levels in the soil

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

The question to ask when encountering Ott's workis:"under what conditions?"You'll inevitably find they don't control for microbes or the inner terrain at all. This is true of any work stemming from jack kruze's influences.https://t.co/569X6KMKh1

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

I would love to hear Ott' thoughts on the imapct of soil microbiota and plant's light receptivity. And to tell him about how It could be a nutrient deficiency in his plants. It could be they weren't responding to certain kinds of sunlight due to a lack of a mineral.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

He was a genius, and his techniques for studying this stuff are wonderful, but he overlooked things because at the time he didn't know about the impact of bacteria on plant growth. So many early pioneers overlooked this stuff and didn't control for it.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Same failure of reasoning crept into Ott's studies on children. It neglects nutrients!This is where Jack Kruze slightly falters in his thinking. He is feeding off the same faulty information. Afaict all the biophoton work was done in greenhouses too.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

There's an unknown in this space you could drive a bus thru.Get the body to respond to light better, simple as.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Do biophotons mattter? yes. But you can modulate how the body responds to this stuff. This is what they all missed. This is what everyone over looks.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

John Ott's work shouldn't' be treated as gospel. Like any scientific work, it should be questioned and prodded. His results aren't some holy relic to be left unquestioned. We should celebrate his work, and keep doing the same kind of research.https://t.co/DF8aRqxnf5

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

This is what I do. Uncovering overlooked aspects of all of these theories. Diving deep into the minutia, finding assumptions and just trying to throw my shit ideas at them.https://t.co/sPd4ZFoAN9

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 3 years ago

@seconds_0 @liminal_warmth @Agorist_trap @Grimhood I wanna one-up Jack Kruse, Ray Peat, and Aajonus Vonderplanitz.My modeling of this space must necessarily explain their observations better than their own model, if I am to seek the truth.

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
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Anyway, if you are into art, or want to photograph insects, buy an ott light. They are very well designed. https://t.co/7tgZcuvUYG

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

If someone can figure out how to non-invasively recreate John Ott's work in natural settings... using time-lapses w/ microscopes, it would be really useful.I'd been working on a prototype that maybe could, but our living situation got fucked.https://t.co/tbOj1Rxx9T

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 2 years ago

But I am a cum poet.The last year of my life has been spent going homeless while trying to build a opensource microscope that can use AI to detect semen, based on a model that detects malaria.https://t.co/GK7F4Nrdxj

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

Great video. That's the kind of thing I'm thinking of; stuff like that not being done during Ott's experiments.They manged to get seedlings to need half the fertilizer and improve water usage simply by mixing it a fungal network.https://t.co/hxBoWGPEjJhttps://t.co/XWavv4DkCt

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago
Replying to @ultimape

https://t.co/UlKtvXP4YW

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UltimApe@ultimape• about 1 year ago

@sapolskysburner Shout out to @AlexJournal2019 for sharing this wonderful thread a few days ago. The thread there is really just my DM's cleaned up a bit.https://t.co/Jqh8MkVkEQ

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UltimApe@ultimape• 11 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Sure we may be able to use light to fuel biological processes, but have you tried to figure out how to enhance it?https://t.co/SXjFBQBC0j

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UltimApe@ultimape• over 2 years ago

Why aren't you tunning you body's resonance to the light available to you instead of min-maxing around red light? Seems like a fools errand.https://t.co/CjhRWvIY79

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UltimApe@ultimape• 7 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

Me and who?https://t.co/O2y858NrZd

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