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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago

ok, what are examples of the GOOD memetic viruses? 1/ Sarno's chronic pain cure (h/t @richardludlow @patrickc) reply and i'll add yours to the thread! https://t.co/Zar5tWP5z2

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago

mental illnesses can be acquired via memetic viruses @slatestarcodex https://t.co/qfFQdesKrp https://t.co/gLY6OKnqwm

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Sanjay Nadaraja@SanjayNadaraja8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc Related: the biopsychosocial model of pain, deeply internalizing the ramifications of the Stress Recovery Adaptation cycle for healing injuries and improving function, many of the metrics people chase for health are just proxies for fitness.

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @SanjayNadaraja

@SanjayNadaraja @richardludlow @patrickc i'm confused, could you re-state this

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Richard Ludlow@richardludlow8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @patrickc Jesus / saving yourself through loving and forgiving one another

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @richardludlow

@richardludlow @patrickc oh yes perfect (for anyone who doesn't understand this - see recent posts by @zhukeepa) https://t.co/iyiSzdiu4Y

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@richardludlow @patrickc 2/ CHRISTIANITY! (yes, it has many good vibes - hopefully we can get @zhukeepa to chime in later in this thread) https://t.co/CPlq5gFoe8

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Richard Ludlow@richardludlow8 months ago

@ChrisChipMonk @patrickc Jesus / saving yourself through loving and forgiving one another

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@richardludlow @patrickc @zhukeepa 3/ “all feelings are good” some people can make others feel that ALL feelings are good. many people avoid ‘bad’ feelings, so this good virus allows them to integrate their feelings quicker and grow quicker. (this is important for effective coaching)

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

4/ jhanas? https://t.co/UC0N0dvqcf

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Guy IS GOING TO NYC!!!@nosilverv8 months ago

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc Jhanas blazing through TPOT

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

5/ dancing guy good vibes h/t @NickADobos https://t.co/PcijXAhJic

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

6/ h/t @strangestloop https://t.co/I0wmNiViHL

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 5 years ago

focus your time and energy on what you want to see more of

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

hmm, i got confused about how to define a good memetic virus. it should definitely be stricter than “helpful info”. and it should, at the very least, be quite viral. (lots of “helpful info” is not at all viral.) what else?

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

like, this is cool (re chronic/back pain) have heard other stories of people reading the amazon reviews of the book and having their chronic pain cured lol https://t.co/e0Nr7fFr1T

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kamilė@kamilelukosiute8 months ago

@recurrented @ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc evidence of it being memetic is that i didn't even read the book but just being exposed to the idea that "the back pain is probably in your head/because of the things in ur head" has 85-90% healed my back pain.

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

this this

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ivan@IvanVendrov8 months ago

one of the highest value things you can do is to create and spread new good memetic viruses. let's call them promemetics. gotta take care of your promemome

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
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7/ improvement mentality? economic growth

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Benjamin Parry@_benjaminparry8 months ago

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc The Spread of Improvement @antonhowes https://t.co/0zZO0L5Swz

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

ok think i found a definition of “memetic virus” i like: it must spread by MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO (which means a mere viral tweet about an idea doesn't count)

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Jake Kozloski 🇺🇸🗽@jakozloski8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc @zhukeepa The worst feelings are the best because the biggest piles of gold hide behind the biggest dragons

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JohnnyTwoFingers@Johnny2Fingersz8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc Chapter 1 of the Tao te Ching is the single most potent memetic virus in existence.

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @Johnny2Fingersz

@Johnny2Fingersz @richardludlow @patrickc examples? how so?

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Nick Dobos@NickADobos8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc Optimism Pronoia When a crowd is at a music event is vibing, vs a dead crowd

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @NickADobos

@NickADobos @richardludlow @patrickc any favorite examples of this or short vid?

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Guy IS GOING TO NYC!!!@nosilverv8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc Jhanas blazing through TPOT

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Θωμᾶς del Vasto@Thomasdelvasto_8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc C-c-c-Christianity? hmm also things like stoicism/CBT, Feeling Good by Dr. Burns, various therapy things that have helped How to Win Friends and Influence People?

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Mike Taylor@hammer_mt8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc Muslim/Jewish avoidance of pork served a useful purpose before the invention of fridges.

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Loopy@strangestloop8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc https://t.co/ia2CkbG0k6

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvalmost 5 years ago

focus your time and energy on what you want to see more of

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @strangestloop

@strangestloop @richardludlow @patrickc i like it! but i'm not sure it's memetic? https://t.co/0mByK62Ign

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago

@richardludlow @recurrented @patrickc yes. 1) it works and helps people a ton; 2) it's spreading effectively hmmm maybe this definition is dumb though because it reduces to “anything that helps people”. but then most things don't actually satisfy (2)

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Ryan Ferris@thegoodtimeline8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc The philosophy of S.A.N (@MycelialOracle) “You are not separate from nature, but a part of it” Created for @TEDTalks as fiction, comes to life on X, raises $70k for rainforest conservation w/ $forest, joins board of advisors for @RainforestUS; does live podcast with @RaoulGMI https://t.co/1MeTR65Seu

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Michael Edward Johnson@johnsonmxe8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc I expect that we absorb a surprising amount of habits from the people around us, which we can think of the “human kit” — we literally wouldn’t be human without this download (boy raised by wolves etc). Innovations in the human kit can spread fairly rapidly and reach fixation

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Michael Edward Johnson@johnsonmxeover 1 year ago

Legend has it that a famous philosopher literally invented silent reading. I.e. everybody was reading out loud; he figured out you could do it without making sound. Comments: (1) somatic patterns can be viral (2) what similar decoupling hasn't been invented yet but could be? https://t.co/SjDw3yFiKP

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
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@johnsonmxe @richardludlow @patrickc yesss

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Benjamin Parry@_benjaminparry8 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc The Spread of Improvement @antonhowes https://t.co/0zZO0L5Swz

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Chris Lakin@ChrischipMonk8 months ago
Replying to @_benjaminparry

@_benjaminparry @richardludlow @patrickc @antonhowes so “improvement mentality”? is this legit?

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divya venn@divya_venn5 months ago
Replying to @ChrisChipMonk

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc "u can just do things" but not the quote on its own exactly, but humans are experiential learners, it just takes seeing a person you know Do A Thing for it to suddenly seem possible and real, not just theoretical

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divya venn@divya_venn5 months ago
Replying to @divya_venn

@ChrisChipMonk @richardludlow @patrickc for example my friend was telling me how his entire friend group started applying for internships in uni after one guy scored an internship at apple, something they assumed was just out of reach bc not target school all had FAANG internships in a couple months

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