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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago

The world is full of anglerfish psychofauna that dangle a glowing thing to lure you in and consume you. Please help me complete this bestiary of ideologies that seduce Twitter people like us 👇 https://t.co/0Kmipsu9Zx

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Doomsday ideology that self-undermines by making you so worried about doomsday that you can’t effectively work to prevent it (shiny thing: you can make a profoundly meaningful contribution to this world)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Nihilism ideology that reinforces depression by tagging anything sincere or fun as being cringe (shiny thing: easy route to high status by looking down on other things)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Spirituality ideology that guards enlightened people from any feedback because they are enlightened (shiny thing: enlightenment can make you permanently good, you become protected from the opinions [ie delusions] of unenlightened people)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Success ideology that asks you to sacrifice your well-being indefinitely for some poorly specified or overly simple hypothetical future reward

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Compassion ideology that punishes you for any shows of thoughtless joy because you should be thinking about/feeling bad about sentient beings that are having a bad time very far away (shiny thing: you are good because you demonstrably care by being upset all the time)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Righteousness ideology that grants you status in exchange for persecuting the unrighteous until you inevitably become marked as the unrighteous and are persecuted

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Kindness/love/inclusion ideology that makes you willfully defenseless in the presence of bad actors who about destroying your beautiful scene or your well-being (shiny thing: being nice all the time gets you more connection and acceptance)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

Nonattachment that is actually just enabling avoidant attachment style and calling it virtuous. Lack of deep intimacy & entanglement with people and situations seen as sign of enlightenment

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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No ego ideology that punishes you for selfish desires so you adopt a generic no ego mask that even convinces *you* that you’ve killed your ego. Meanwhile the mask has no eyeholes so you can’t see yourself as you continue doing selfish things in more complex and subtle ways (shiny thing: you get to be good by having no ego. Or, in the case of sociopaths, you get to get away with more) See: https://t.co/bg9QiansIE

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Esoteric discipline ideology in which you get to be working on the World's Most Revolutionary Thing in exchange for becoming so hyperspecialized that nobody outside of the discipline can understand you Often involves enormous amounts of math, logic, blockchain, specialized lingo, or occult practices Worst versions of this make you not only incomprehensible to laypeople but also uninterested in anything outside of your hyperspecialization, alienating you from friends, family, and the beautiful web of human culture

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Good Simple Life TM ideology in which the best thing to do is to invest in a stable career and partner and settle down somewhere remote where you need to take a car to see your closest friend but in practice never do bc they’re 1hr away and you’re raising a baby with zero support Variant: homesteading ideology where you do this but are 4hrs away from closest friend but at least you get to work the land all day, which gives you a chronic lower back condition

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Fitting In ideology where you constrain your ambition or competence to avoid making other people look bad (shiny thing: it's in the name)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

"Growth / authenticity ideology which makes u go 24/7 'authentic; at the cost of scaring normies and old people and cutting yourself off from potential friends Ie “masking is always bad/unfair to the masker” ––@curiousceros

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

https://t.co/2fpsaNEMUq

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Θωμᾶς del Vasto@Thomasdelvasto_about 1 year ago

@TylerAlterman having a fancy jet setting lifestyle traveling the world, growing a great business and meeting cool people but ultimately preventing you from having a family or any real roots

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Your friend Myk 🌻🍉@mykolaabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman I think what so many of these have in common is a sort of innate bias towards coherence that doesn't actually hold as you dig into the complexity of life. All these shiny things are offering "the answer" to some big confusion in some fixed way. https://t.co/f7xIFlESHE

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Your friend Myk 🌻🍉@mykolaabout 1 year ago

@camino_delsol Yes. I am the locus of experience, and on some level that means that all experience is reconciled within me. The default mode of reconciliation is coherence, especially in post-enlightenment society, but actually there's no reason to believe that all of this coheres.

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Your friend Myk 🌻🍉@mykolaabout 1 year ago
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@TylerAlterman I think of these psychofauna as having a sort of "size" relative to a person's consciousness, along some subset of dimensions. If the predator is bigger than the consciousness, it can consume it. If the consciousness is bigger, it's not a risk. Consciousness in this way...

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Your friend Myk 🌻🍉@mykolaabout 1 year ago
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@TylerAlterman is expanded by increasing the number of potential contradictions a person can hold. I think that's it.

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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https://t.co/ibbgdJCVG2

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Pavlos Papageorgiou@PavlosProkopeasabout 1 year ago

@TylerAlterman Close to some of your themes: Narrative addiction. The feeling that you need a couple of startups, a personal brand, a book, a foundation and a podcast to feel that your life has meaning or is 'going somewhere'

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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https://t.co/THPMOPUB9y

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Matt Gilliland@MattBGillilandabout 1 year ago

@TylerAlterman Optionality ideology that keeps you from committing or taking any big swings because those close off other options, so over time the options get shallower and worse on average

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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https://t.co/8NsaHjnlsz

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Exhibit A: all of tpot

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Isaac Luce@isaac_lewisabout 1 year ago

@TylerAlterman Meta-ideology that hooks you into obsessively studying meta-frameworks and meta-meta-frameworks until you are incapable of holding object-level beliefs (shiny thing: you are very smart, and 10 levels above the object-level masses) https://t.co/yjGDDzXXpv

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Pride in my pathology ideology See in particular, for this crowd: Autism/ADHD pride (Fwiw I think these things are both superpowers and disorders, but by identifying with the whole complex you cement both)

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max@hexstellationabout 1 year ago

@TylerAlterman pathologizing ideology where you root your identity and community in a shared disorder or set of problems, making those struggles load-bearing and more difficult to overcome

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Ppl are possessed by psychofauna ideology Leads to alienation and sometimes false belief that you are above being possessed The Matrix is sort of about this. Neo and co get to kill normies with impunity because Neo and co are free while normies are potential agents

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Nimayi Dixit@nimayi3about 1 year ago

I enjoyed this thread! Also beware of - I have exhaustively catalogued all “anglerfish psychofauna” ideology which may cause you to behave in a judgemental/patronizing way towards the masses of people who are, at the end of the day, sincerely trying to find some beliefs they can hold onto as they navigate a perplexing reality. (Shiny thing: the feeling of “I know all the pitfalls, so I will be safe from existential error.”)

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
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Already covered this one mostly but worth mentioning

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 1 year ago

the internet complicates this picture by providing many incentives for being mentally ill (sympathy, fitting in with peers, Generating Relatable Content); i think there’s sort of a mentally ill online lifestyle attractor, which provides benefits like avoiding responsibility

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAlterman4 months ago
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“I suffer therefore I care”

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Your friend Myk 🌻🍉@mykolaabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Respectfully, autism and adhd are not pathologies, and the liberation pursued by those of us who lean deeply into them is specifically and exactly about changing the narrative from "these are pathologies" to simply "this is a valid way to be". I see your point but it's skewed.

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Θωμᾶς del Vasto@Thomasdelvasto_about 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman having a fancy jet setting lifestyle traveling the world, growing a great business and meeting cool people but ultimately preventing you from having a family or any real roots

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Pavlos Papageorgiou@PavlosProkopeasabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Close to some of your themes: Narrative addiction. The feeling that you need a couple of startups, a personal brand, a book, a foundation and a podcast to feel that your life has meaning or is 'going somewhere'

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𝓁𝓊𝓂𝓅 🐠@lumpfishedabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Shiny thing: it’s a communityAnglerfish: it’s a scene

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @lumpfished

@lumpfished Or worse:Shiny thing: it’s a communityAnglerfish: it’s a brand activation

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rΞgΞn is composting culture 🧭@regencryptoabout 1 year ago
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@TylerAlterman this is fun! some overlap. could become a thing tm simulation ideology: all of this reality is but only an illusion, controlled by some form higher intelligence. spends time philosophising about the simulation and forgets to play

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rΞgΞn is composting culture 🧭@regencryptoabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman visuals: Doomsday: chicken little Nihilism: a ghost spirituality: Wiz@rds of Roke Success: a pumped donkey chasing a carrot Righteousness: Joan of Arc Kindness: Puppy with a wolf behind it Nonattachment: Centaur No ego: Strawman on fire Esoteric discipline: Monk with walls

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Isaac Luce@isaac_lewisabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Meta-ideology that hooks you into obsessively studying meta-frameworks and meta-meta-frameworks until you are incapable of holding object-level beliefs (shiny thing: you are very smart, and 10 levels above the object-level masses) https://t.co/yjGDDzXXpv

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Matt Gilliland@MattBGillilandabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Optionality ideology that keeps you from committing or taking any big swings because those close off other options, so over time the options get shallower and worse on average

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Nimayi Dixit@nimayi3about 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

I enjoyed this thread! Also beware of - I have exhaustively catalogued all “anglerfish psychofauna” ideology which may cause you to behave in a judgemental/patronizing way towards the masses of people who are, at the end of the day, sincerely trying to find some beliefs they can hold onto as they navigate a perplexing reality. (Shiny thing: the feeling of “I know all the pitfalls, so I will be safe from existential error.”)

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max@hexstellationabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman pathologizing ideology where you root your identity and community in a shared disorder or set of problems, making those struggles load-bearing and more difficult to overcome

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Ronen Tamari@rtk254about 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman "O fish! The bated hook is not your friend! Go deep, go deep." - Rumi

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Michael Garfield 🔮@michaelgarfieldabout 1 year ago
Replying to @TylerAlterman

@TylerAlterman Twitter itself

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Tyler Alterman@TylerAltermanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @michaelgarfield

@michaelgarfield yikes but true

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Kahlil Corazo 🧭 Explorations.ph@kcorazoabout 1 year ago
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@TylerAlterman psychofauna online battles actively recruiting soldiers: - american left vs right - israel vs palestine - vegans vs carnivores - protect mother earth vs e/acc - antivax vs science establishment - lgbtq vs social conservatives - race realists vs antiracists

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