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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 1 year ago

so i've been thinking a little bit about how i'd go about introducing someone to math, a few people in portland have expressed interest in something like this. the rest of this will be some messy thinking out loud. a major thing is that there's this large and imo very…

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

lol i forgot i tweeted about 1 = 0.999... already but whatever this was a better and more detailed discussion https://t.co/0G2pzDuM2P

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 2 years ago

people insisting that 0.999... can't possibly be equal to 1 is one of the most common math debates on the internet, it constantly recurs over and over and over again, and the temptation if you have a certain amount of math education is to just tell those people they're wrong

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Dan Allison@danallisonabout 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan This is beautiful. Thank you. Seriously, this has unlocked something for me. I’m not exactly sure what it is, but it’s like a weight has been lifted off of me.

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_about 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan I would’ve liked you as a math teacher

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan i just read Logicomix and thought how much the math crisis resembled theological debate, bc at the heart of it is infinity (and its reciprocal, continuity) which is epistemically equivalent to God, in that its existence can never be directly observed or proved by finite beings

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@QiaochuYuan it's possible that reality is in fact discrete and finite and infinity is a handy calculating tool to approximate it, or that reality is continuous and infinite and discrete numerical computation is the only tool we have to calculate beyond our limited mental capacity

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@QiaochuYuan what's exciting to me right now is that you're both willing and able to engage in this deep kind of introspection, and i think not scared off by theological imagery, e.g. "seeing why a thing is true directly with your soul" sounds like how we describe direct experiences of God

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@QiaochuYuan and the way most people, even most mathematicians, engage with math is more like the blind faith of those who've never had this direct experience and so treat the whole field as a symbolic game, again there are direct parallels in theology

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@QiaochuYuan what i see is that you have a very rare and wonderful ability to see both sides of this, and while i wouldn't want to tell you what to do, it would make me so happy to see you use your gift, maybe to write a book, bc there's a rift between math and mysticism that needs healing

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@QiaochuYuan and i know you have a hard time asking for help but if there's anything i can do for you, please let me know

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@yoltartar 🙏🙏🙏

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@yoltartar yes absolutely! i’m gonna be writing towards this i think, it’s definitely a theme on my mind

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hinterlander@yoltartarabout 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan 🎉🙏

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QC@QiaochuYuanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @yoltartar

@yoltartar logicomix is great! i would love to dive deeper into the foundational crisis, that’s another hugely important and underdiscussed subject. part of the, uh, mathematical shadow for sure

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvabout 1 year ago
Replying to @QiaochuYuan

@QiaochuYuan I think what convinced me was something like let 0.999.... be x so 10x = 9.999... and because 9x = 9.999... - 0.999... 9x = 9 x = 1 therefore 1 = 0.999...

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