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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago

groups have extraordinary capacity for coordination with entirely implicit norms, but as soon as you start adding explicit structure, there’s a mental bug that will activate in some people where they suddenly find ambiguity 100% intolerable and demand everything be 100% defined

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

simply don’t let them do that

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

there’s an equal and opposite mental bug which mistakes ANY explicit structure for authoritarian control 🤡

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesisabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels What % of prevalence of each bug in your experience?

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @exgenesis

@exgenesis this maybe an example where you have two polarised archetypes that are always latent in the social field, so when you bring any group together, someone will wind up speaking on behalf of one pole, and someone else will find themselves speaking on behalf of the other

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❤️‍🔥 xiq@exgenesisabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels makes sense

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @exgenesis

@exgenesis I think thats the mechanism for spreading a lot of culture war stuff too. you dont have to be the most fanatical culture warrior, just the person in the room who happens to care a bit more than everyone else about the issue

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ChrisD@sensefulroninabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels What? You’re telling me that most people don’t do “check-ins” and announce their “intentions” while trying to come up with a definition for relationality? Losers.

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @sensefulronin

@sensefulronin lol I was LITERALLY just texting @exgenesis about check-ins & intentions snap

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ChrisD@sensefulroninabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels @exgenesis Portal isn’t going to vibe by itself

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Parth@mr_samosamanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @sensefulronin

@sensefulronin @RichDecibels @exgenesis what is this thread referencing haha

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ChrisD@sensefulroninabout 1 year ago
Replying to @mr_samosaman

@mr_samosaman @RichDecibels @exgenesis Facilitator culture

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Parth@mr_samosamanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels what are the especially powerful implicit norms you’re thinking of

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @mr_samosaman

@mr_samosaman I’m thinking of the 98% of coordinated human action that happens without explicit roles, ground rules, protocols etc

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Parth@mr_samosamanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels which one is your favorite? mine is that everyone knows not to take the urinal directly next to someone using it

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @mr_samosaman

@mr_samosaman you really tryna get to make the implicit explicit eh? 😁

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Parth@mr_samosamanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels LMAO only to admire or become attentive, bc I’m curious if there are ways to cultivate the implicit norms in places that need them. Ecological succession type shit

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @mr_samosaman

@mr_samosaman good question! I’m not sure. maybe you kinda have to go thru a loop of making new explicit norms and then people get a feel for what stuff culture is made of and then you can let the implicit take over again

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Parth@mr_samosamanabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels interesting thing might be that enforcement of both explicit and implicit norms is key, but effective enforcement of explicit norms needs to happen from authority figures, while effect enforcement of implicit norms happen from everyone

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Vynn is going to SEAcamp@SurenVynnabout 1 year ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels somewhat related: counterwill https://t.co/c6QSQImC9j

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsabout 1 year ago
Replying to @SurenVynn

@SurenVynn daaaaang

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