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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago

sunny day, so I went to check the California electricity price map. sure enough, pretty much everywhere, the current price of electricity is negative. poor generators that can't easily throttle their output, like nuclear or geothermal, apparently have to just pay for the privilege of outputting power, if they can't get rid of it any other way in certain areas, the pricing is quite negative

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5/23/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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like here is an interesting circumstance. there's a bottleneck, so, power is almost 30 cents per MWh in one place, whereas just across the ridge, any power plant operating has to pay almost 30 cents to put that power on the grid. meanwhile, the poor geothermal plant at The Geysers, Eagle Rock, has to produce power at a negative realtime price, even though all around it utilities are buying at a positive price.

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5/23/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข about 1 year ago
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sunny day, and the marginal price of power is again 0 all over the place on the real time markets. really interested in estimating the current and future depth of this intensifyingly frequent situation https://t.co/1w5ZApBymG

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6/10/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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*ah, mistake here, negative day ahead price. the realtime price there's quite a number of positive price spots

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5/23/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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important point https://t.co/sUn4VjsRpU

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5/23/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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including this https://t.co/O3pCxiZ2bM

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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago

@nucpilot_Chris this is true, the major of the baseload generation is contracted, but not all. this paper on the geysers geothermal resource argues that the curtailment they have to do is related to negative pricing it's about ~1% of their net generation, but growing https://t.co/InUkCXoRYN https://t.co/E6CPNTf9My

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5/23/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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jigar shah writes today! https://t.co/Tu9p97TMGL

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5/24/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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https://t.co/cRGBM3zPIG

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5/24/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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tesla doing amazing at this https://t.co/qIttfJ0Wja

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5/24/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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the price is negative again guys!! https://t.co/cRGBM3zPIG https://t.co/J71ucuuXXn

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5/25/2024
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Danielle Fong ๎จ€๐Ÿ”†@DanielleFongโ€ข over 1 year ago
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mooom the price is negative again https://t.co/btIUvGfLMs

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5/26/2024