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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago

why does “precise thinking” have more of a reputation for being externally verifiable than “precise feeling”? ime it’s not. not everyone has the thinking skills to verify a trained thinker’s train of thought, same as not everyone has the feeling skills to follow a trained feeler

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

afaict most ‘external verification’ of precise thinking & feeling is done by some legible downstream effect, not by verification of the process itself. since both ‘precise thinking’ and ‘precise feeling’ require training. the average person can’t do them to expert caliber https://t.co/xR8tE3l9Ov

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago

imo “precise feeling” has just as much to contribute to human well-being as “precise thinking.” and it’s not any less verifiable. “precise feeling” & “precise thinking” that someone else can’t follow both ultimately create outcomes that *are* legible & perceptible https://t.co/SOG6XJjhOU

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

as an example of what I mean by “verifying precise feeling” - every session from @DrMylesDC their hands wind up in some specific place on my ribcage or head or leg or wherever that obviously feel charged and pinched or active but I had not been paying attention to beforehand

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@DrMylesDC the process by which they find those spots, where stuff is going on in my body? that process takes a lot more training than simply me noticing “oh, now that you’re pointing it out to me I totally do feel stuff going on there, that isn’t going on two inches to the right”

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james, the giant peach@JimmyRis• over 1 year ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation @DrMylesDC The architectural and design process of Christopher Alexander is rooted in cultivating sensitivity to precise feeling in the body and using this as a means of tuning to the sensory experience of the arrangement of matter

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james, the giant peach@JimmyRis• over 1 year ago
Replying to @JimmyRis

@relic_radiation @DrMylesDC He spent many years at Berkeley empirically testing this by trying to rigorously train students to feel the subtle changes in feeling that occur when you move physical elements around, and to feel the “wholeness” of a space in general, which you detect with the body

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago
Replying to @JimmyRis

@JimmyRis @DrMylesDC really??? awesome. this is one of the things I mean by “precise feeling has a lot to contribute to human well-being, across every domain”

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Elena Lake 🌿@relic_radiation• over 1 year ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@DrMylesDC I do this too. I had a client 2weeks ago who had a specific body tension pattern that’d freeze him somatically when it was active I found it within the first three minutes (extended from his right front ribcage down into his hip) and he was surprised. &I’m like “this is my job”

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rΞgΞn is composting culture 🧭@regencrypto• over 1 year ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation @DrMylesDC ime its easier to feel into the body because there's always this energetic signal broadcast without the need to touch. also easy to verify. thinking has more of a rep post enlightenment. it has dominated the cultural landscape. feels are only just starting to catch up

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james, the giant peach@JimmyRis• 12 months ago
Replying to @relic_radiation

@relic_radiation Precise feeling is the foundation of Christopher Alexander’s architectural design approach I’ve been studying, using the sensory experience of the arrangement of matter to inform changes to the built environment that reliably produce those feelings in others

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