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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

i got less mad at New Age hippies when i realised they weren't actually trying to really do indian kirtan, native american sweat lodges, peruvian ayahuasca ceremonies not really in the same way wrestling isn't about fighting, it's about the theatre of fighting https://t.co/oATFdfoqU8

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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they were doing their own New Age theatre, motivated by their own aesthetics, their own neuroses, adopting other cultural symbols as symbolic flair in their particular project of healng healing, healing, healing. that was the aesthetic, the purpose, the drum beat of these spaces https://t.co/XxRD34NKDW

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

to the weekend Green Tara initiation crowd, initiations are closer to collecting pokemon, or patches to sew onto your personal self jacket

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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this may come as a surprise, but Indian kirtan isn’t primarily about healing. it’s about devoting yourself to god, with sound, which is considered to be the very body of the gods

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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Indian kirtan, from within its context, doesn’t make sense without a real, felt, and culturally embedded relationship to the gods they sing to

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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it’s not a practice of healing. it’s a lived relationship with entities are that believed to be outside the self and that the self is subordinate to

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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it’s hard for me to know this as well, but my sense is Peruvian ayahuasca ceremonies, while all different in local contexts not about healing. they are about making contact with the spirit world and righting any imbalances

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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those ceremonies, from within their native context, don’t make sense without a ritual community, shamans who have a relationship with specific spirits, and a relationship to our real, lived world that sees it and us as influenced by spirits and ecological forces other than self

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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yes, healing happens in these spaces. yes, people find spiritual cures and sometimes medical cures, and individuals with ailments are sent here. but this kind of healing feels cut of a different metaphor than New Age healing https://t.co/1wJaklLRbJ

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

they use the same word, "initiation", but the word is so wholly cut from a different metaphor, it’s best to study it as a different phenomenon. a New Age phenomenon https://t.co/DrO4TJj6LY

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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to be crisp, in the world of New Age, the individuals are the gods. nothing exists to connect the self with smthng smaller or smthng bigger their original myth, their orientation towards healing & merging & love, is not so different from the christian puritan myths they run from

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago
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worth saying at this point—i do find their aesthetic beautiful. it's actually quite uniquely beautiful, and some of the spaces and openness they've carved out genuinely improved on what was there before in their lives https://t.co/DrO4TJj6LY https://t.co/illkngCJWj

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 1 year ago

american kirtan is its own practice, and quite beautiful. the corresponding equivalent doesn't actually exist in india i don't find songs beautiful in the western way about goddess lakshmi or mahadevi

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RomeoStevens@RomeoStevens76• over 1 year ago
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@AskYatharth The flanderization will continue until morale improves.

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Sage@hrosspet• over 1 year ago
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@RomeoStevens76 @AskYatharth yes, that's the word i was looking for!

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Phil@blisstweeting• over 1 year ago
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@AskYatharth Very true, I love your perspective

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