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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago

nietzsche has a quote that's like, "insanity is rare in individuals, but in groups it is the rule". over the years as i've participated in all sorts of groups i've come to see more clearly how and why this is true

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
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one way of explaining it is: a lot of it has to do with the fact that, most people in most groups don't particularly feel responsible for the totality of the group. so what is a seemingly fair/reasonable response from each individual, adds up to an overreaction from the group

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

i'm also vaguely reminded of someone's observation that the scientific establishment as a whole ends up collectively cherrypicking what gets published, which would be kinda considered fraud if Science was a single individual? maybe i'm misremembering, sry this is a 5am tweet

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

how i like to think about all of this is that we are very new to working in groups that are larger than a few dozen people. as a species, we are still learning the basics of effective coordination. we are soooo early

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

and you can kind of think of the history of wars and technology etc as growing pains as humans struggle to learn to coordinate in larger and larger groups. marshall mcluhan had some good stuff to say about this, man i really gotta reread the book and write that essay

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

went looking for my thread of notes on Understanding Media and this stood out to me. idk what specifically he was referencing or how true it is, but it's interesting to think about how and why this has changed https://t.co/4s04qWJkQp

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 2 years ago

"Ancient prehistoric societies regard violent crime as pathetic. The killer is regarded as we do a cancer victim. 'How terrible it must be to feel like that,' they say."

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

from Junger's Tribe: https://t.co/gCInv70OZ5

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 7 years ago

Subsistence hunters aren't necessarily more moral individuals, they just can't get away with selfish behavior because everything is so easily scrutinized. Modern society is a sprawling and anonymous mess. We know fraudsters are among us, but we can barely do anything about it

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

my mental model of how to address this is something like: there need to be organic networks of well-adjusted, high-agency, responsible people that perform roughly the same function as roots resisting soil erosion. modern comms tech does allow us to achieve this like never before

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

just musing out loud ok i should go to sleep gn

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

https://t.co/QCM7vr3rzW

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanvover 5 years ago

if we play our cards right https://t.co/65KsVIYWuC

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Your friend Myk 🌻🍉@mykolaover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv There’s something else in play here that strikes me - “insanity” is when someone has multiple unreconciled parts competing for attention. Internal misalignment. In groups though we need to assume misalignment as the initial default state. “Sanity” as alignment?

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Eason C 🖤🌱 Suomessa 🇫🇮@easoncxzover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv Another reason: the motion to create group bonds and the motion to seek truth are almost opposite actions.

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Dan Allison@danallisonover 1 year ago
Replying to @visakanv

@visakanv This video talks about how this dynamic is analogous to cancer. When individuals see themselves as separate from the group/environment, they treat it as a resource to exploit. https://t.co/dl3nTJ8oBp

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 1 year ago
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@visakanv challenge accepted! https://t.co/c8IYpMep9R

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Malcolm Ocean 🏴‍☠️@Malcolm_Oceanover 6 years ago

@selfprime HARD MODE: BECOME A MULTI-PERSON INDIVIDUAL (I jest but also I am sort of working on this full-time, depending on how you construe it)

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