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congratulations, you've placed two layers of indirection between yourself and an experience you're having ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ this is supposed to help how? the real question is what being a failure feels like in your body. fewer layers, not more https://t.co/uDaNRs3dI4
@QiaochuYuan But how are you supposed to feel what the thought feels like in your body if you don't first notice that you are having the thought Having the feeling and knowing it connects to the thought and following it up? But it still requires unblending and taking thought as object
@VividVoid_ @QiaochuYuan *nods* two possibilities here:1 a feeling overwritten by a metacognitive error2 a presumptive conclusion about an occurrence, then feelings ensue. here, helps to do Byron Katie thing of "is this true (for sure?)? what would you be without this thought?" assisted by noticing
@VividVoid_ i guess the thing that specifically annoys me about this image is that the third step is supposed to by itself produce any relief. i don't get this at all, this has never been true for me. to me it smells like installing a habit of disbelieving your own thoughts and substituting
@QiaochuYuan To be fair, in early stages of developing self-awareness people are often not actually aware that they are thinking, and this basic move can help them have more choice/agility in how they relate to thought as it happens
@QiaochuYuan @AbstractFairy Well, no, though. This would be true if the experience you were having were “being a failure” but that’s not an experience that’s a story you’re telling yourself about an experience. Yes to finding it in your body but even just noticing it like this breaks so many illusions.
@QiaochuYuan i wonder if back in the day a lot of people mostly *only* had direct experience and were fooling around with what indirection could do https://t.co/QHKL338W8R
"in this ancient meditation practice..." y'all i am all about the lindy, much respect for the old ways, but we need to put it in context: minds and bodies were shaped by very different forces way back when, and what worked then might not work as well now, we might need new ways