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"Doomers are seeking power, that's all". "E/acc is reckless and selfish." My friend, we live in a complex ecosystem of memes, subagents, social strategies, and causal structures. Some people are indeed using doomerism for power. Some people are using it to signal their intelligence via clout association. Some are doing it simply to get closer to an epistemological circuit they intuit has value. Some are doing it because they're bored and want some excitement and meaning into their life. Some people want to accelerate because they see a game theory that incentivizes entrenchment of power structures. Some people say they want to accelerate because they are seeking funding and talent for their startup and need the fiction of doomers as power grabbers to cultivate the right aesthetic for a productive day-to-day activity. Some people want to seem balanced in order to not offend anyone. Some people are, naturally, grifters and will do whatever it is they get socially rewarded for. Most people, are of course, saying things to _shape social reality_ and change the landscape of reward and punishments in ways that are beneficial for themselves and their allies. Some people are impulsively trying to satisfy their need for validation in the moment and have no true beliefs one way or the other. Some people are impulsively truth-seeking and simply want to share what they truly believe whether or not it costs them dearly. Some people are flip-flipping between these alternatives depending on their neurochemistry and sensory inputs in the moment. Some people are instantiating honest to God utility maximization algorithms. Some people are shamelessly pretending to instantiate utility maximization algorithms just to go on a date with their crush. You get the idea.

@algekalipso @ESYudkowsky > Most people, are of course, saying things to _shape social reality_ and change the landscape of reward and punishments in ways that are beneficial for themselves and their allies. thought i’d highlight this meme, explains so much about the meaning crisis