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the most interesting and also saddest part of this to me is the part where she couldn’t tell whether any women actually enjoyed and were actually attracted to men https://t.co/TEpgKXLrIR

@QiaochuYuan Omg that “I always assumed everyone was basically like me and just pretending to go with what was expected” move, That is EEEEEVERYWHEEEEERE, and so invisible cuz we all just assume it latently and think it’s too obvious to merit asking about or checking in on

@the_wilderless @QiaochuYuan yeah it's everywhere because of the worst psy-op https://t.co/agVdAUV10q

@the_wilderless @QiaochuYuan ie this girl is probably perceiving tons of other places where people ARE just going along with things that are bad and calling it what-they-want and nobody has ever told her that these people are fools and that bad is not, in fact, good, actually

@Malcolm_Ocean @the_wilderless @QiaochuYuan Do you think this is ever necessary to lead to improving society? Like, early days of transitioning a culture from autocratic to democracy. It may be quite worse initially but you need to believe this is good (ultimately) and stick with it

@DefenderOfBasic @the_wilderless @QiaochuYuan as I discuss in the thread, I do think that this psy-op has accompanied some past society-level developments, arguably for the positive but it doesn't in principle need to: if we pretend costs are benefits to justify the real benefits, we are crazy or lying, not responsible

@DefenderOfBasic @the_wilderless @QiaochuYuan there's a whole complex thing to explain here but "good things have costs" or "periods of adaptation can be harder" aren't necessarily things that reduce to "bad is good actually" but some variants totally are, eg "so you should like it [even tho you don't understand]"

ooh damn https://t.co/JwE0wQ87Bh