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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago

Every time I read some history about Palestine/Israel and the surrounding area I'm like WHAT? and also reaffirmed that should absolutely not spout uninformed opinions about such an old and complicated conflict. With that said, spouting some uninformed opinions:

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10/14/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Anything related to colonialism is by definition the fault of the Brits. Let them solve it. https://t.co/kUEHWUsEvz

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10/14/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I sympathise with peoples desire to have a safe home, the Palestinians living there and the Jews right after the Holocaust. Do I support the military group beheading babies or the one firing on medics? Fuck that, they all suck.

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10/14/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I don't have a honest idea how to solve this mess, but the discourse could stand to be more high decoupling IMO. You can support a free Palestine without endorsing terror attacks, you can support Jews living in the promised land without creating an apartheid state.

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10/14/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I'm always a bit puzzled by the colonialism takes tbh. They have a point that the state is rather recent and artificial, but it's not like the Jews are strangers to the land. Isn't there this whole book about them hanging out in the desert making matza and stuff...

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10/16/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Funny bit I read on Wikipedia is that in the mandate for Israel they explicitly say it shouldn't limit the freedoms of the Palestinians and such. Well that didn't work out very well.

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10/16/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Thinking about what indigenous means is actually kind of messed up. Everything is a result of people traveling around and fighting. But some kinds of traveling and fighting are considered almost illegitimate.

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10/16/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I saw someone call Gaza an open air concentration camp and it got me thinking about the collective trauma of the Jews. Idk it somehow makes sense to me. Like a child rejecting but being shaped by how they were raised. How to process that in a more healthy way idk.

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10/16/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I can't really relate to fighting for my country tbh. If this patch of land were ruled by France, Belgium, Germany, Spain, I don't think I'd really care. An almost orthogonal concern is if the government changes to be unfavourable to my way of life. I'd probably just immigrate.

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10/16/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I guess there is only one Jewish state in the world, so I can kind if imagine feeling like that's worth defending. I'm less sure what grants Palestinians their identity that's worth dying for.

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10/16/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I keep reading that half the people in Gaza are under 18 and isn't that kind of notable and insane by itself? Is the life expectancy 0? Did all the old people die or immigrate? Is it mostly families with children or independent youth? How? Why? Searching...

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10/17/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Wtf, not only are there no old people in Palestine and is their life expectancy lower, the median age of Arabs in Israel is also 10 years lower than Jews. That's crazy. https://t.co/QjQiDew9De https://t.co/3iPMRGaMFM https://t.co/OKRZCdlmAZ

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10/17/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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hmmmmmm https://t.co/JuS0TKXNlF

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10/17/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Yay more history, fascinating stuff https://t.co/sY1afSZXoF

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10/28/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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🤔🤔🤔 https://t.co/vKv87tnHXF

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10/28/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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So aiui the Philistines were Greek settler colonists who were wiped of the earth after which the area was just some empty desert in the Ottoman empire that fell under British rule after its collapse where a part was at some point named Palestine to annoy the Jews

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Meanwhile the Jews have been there for thousands of years, with the Holocaust causing a huge influx of immigration and a lot on unrest leading to today. Idk seems more nuanced than Palestine being colonized by Israel.

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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No idea if any of this is true but it's an interesting narrative counterweight to the free Palestine narrative we hear so often. (Source: eigen QT) https://t.co/AHPTYLs3Eg

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Pacifist to Zionist pipeline is running at peak capacity https://t.co/mct2v3bMJ4

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goblin waifu@goblinodds• almost 2 years ago

re: moving israeli jews elsewhere this was my position for a v long time! like if you want to live like this ok i guess but why?? and why should it be anyone else's problem? oct 7 and the following events changed this for me-- https://t.co/EtOZqreBiw

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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No serious answers afaict https://t.co/kdKJatiYBm

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Getting the impression that IDF somewhat knows what they are doing, trying to hit military targets. Can't fault them for hamas basically trying to ensure maximum collateral civilian casualties https://t.co/NMOTwVHN9Z

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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• almost 2 years ago

how it started / how its going https://t.co/nzNnyE3qom

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Still pondering https://t.co/xTemHS0skB

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eigenrobot@eigenrobot• almost 2 years ago

i leave it to the reader to ponder the relative ethics of - israeli airstrikes not intended to kill civilians but which nevertheless have that effect, and - hamas rocket attacks that are intended to kill civilians but which mostly fail owing to hamas' incompetence

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Makes my blood boil https://t.co/Q1Hc2Lgb0L

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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You know the thing where if you take antibiotics you need to take the full course and not stop half way through when you feel fine because you'll just create a more resistant virus? Yeah.

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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Idk I feel like I'm in a similar place as gobs.

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11/1/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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I think a pivotal moment for me was when hamas rocket fell in the parking lot of a hospital and they accused Israel of genocide, that set the bar for interpreting anything coming out of gaza. The more hysterical the reports get the more I think "unfortunately people die in war"

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11/5/2023
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Pepijn is going to treeweek 2@pepijndevos• almost 2 years ago
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As I said in the first tweet, WHAT?! https://t.co/n28SkE5mnd https://t.co/IvQHdT9Shu

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11/6/2023
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goblin waifu@goblinodds• almost 2 years ago
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@pepijndevos lmaoooo

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11/1/2023