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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago

one curious feature of language is gender https://t.co/Qy6WNUCaAa

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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"what does this have to do with---" gentle reader, im glad you asked

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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you are most likely vaguely familiar with gender in english (barely retained) and in european languages: for example, france's charming habit of classifying absolutely everything as male or female german, like latin, has three genders: masculine, feminine, neuter https://t.co/3ttvLx3c9u

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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to an english speaker, where gender is only really used to refer to obviously-gendered objects like people and boats, the inclusion of a neuter gender seems natural: of course most things have no "gender," and so a language might obviously include "non-gendered" things as class

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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well. that's where you're wrong, bucko the german "neuter" gender has nothing to do with masculinity or femininity those "biological" or "socially-constructed" genders are linguistically, speaking, late arrivals

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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let us RETVRN for a moment to our roots https://t.co/XSsr13RpVy

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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like many languages, English, French, and German are descended from the "Proto-Indoeuropean" (PIE) language spoken by the peoples of a distant past who poured out of the steppe into Europe, India, and even further beyond https://t.co/wQTSbXlxcl

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotalmost 3 years ago

who WERE the tocharians. lets find out together

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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PIE grammatical gender, in its earliest forms, knew neither male nor female Instead, its "gender" was divided by _animacy_: was a thing's nature alive and agentic, or passive and inert? So did our forebears perceive the world

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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German's neuter gender is a vestige of PIE's inert classification. Masculine and feminine grammatical genders in all of PIE's daughter languages, meanwhile, evolved from a subdivision of the animated

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Although we will focus on PIE and her daughters, animacy is a common determinant of gender in other language groups, some of which allow finer gradations from which we may inductively derive a universal human consensus on the hierarchy of animacy of things

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Generally, humans agree that animacy is observed (from greatest to least) in 1st person 2nd person 3rd person Proper names Humans Animals Plants Natural forces Concrete objects Abstractions This scale is intuitive, although more useful for some purposes than others

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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It specifically allows us to comment on the retention of English gender for pronouns for humans, and occasionally for animals and dear objects (boats): this is a recognition of their spirit This is why "they" is used as a de-"gendered" pronoun instead of the inanimate "it"

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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But let us return to PIE, the tongue of *binary* animation, of presence or absence of spirit, of _soma_ and _sarx_ This is the matter to which I wish to attend

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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PIE often had words for "things" or substances in each of the genders A commonly remarked-upon example is fire The PIE term for inert fire comes to us as "pyre," "furnace," "fire" itself Animated fire's daughters are igneous, ignition, and--notably--Agni, a Vedic God of Fire https://t.co/JThVG4VJ9m

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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What is the meaning of Agni and what relation does he bear to PIE's animated fire? The Vedic transition from the animated fire *h₁n̥gʷnís to the god Agni represents a movement of the spirit of fire from the numinous realm to personified divinity

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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This is in a sense a promotion: no longer is animated fire a spirited substance but a cosmic force It is also a removal of spirit from the familiar to the distant By entombing the spirit of fire in a distant god, earthly fire is rendered wholly inert or neuter

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Time passed. Empires rose. The primordial gods of embodied spirits were cast to Tartarus and the gods of social abstractions rose to Olympus; but these too were animated: war, wisdom, sex, craft, commerce, other kinds of war, strength, death

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Time passed. Empires fell. Universal Gods displaced the pantheons. The spirit moved upon the waters, it was written; but the spirit was not _of_ the water, and though the earth had form it was form alone, without agency, and the divine kingdom departed for realms superlunary

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Time passed. Empires rose again. The Universal God was pushed out in time, _primum movens immobile_ and final judgement; then reduced beyond recognition or comprehension to a monoid in the category of endofunctors.

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Time marched on. Men lost interest in functional programming altogether and simply did away with the notion of the sacred which had really gotten a bit stale. Fire was investigated further and it was determined that it was actually not, and had never even been, fire in any case

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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Years flew by. Masculinity and femininity, the last vestiges of animacy in language, were close to elimination. Bread was no longer broken: calories were ingested. Sex was abstracted. Animals were raised in factories, and never given names. Humans were assigned numbers.

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotabout 2 years ago
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In this age, at long last, the very notions of distinction and agency shall be laid to rest, and will soon be forgotten; the true gender wars will finally be over, and the inert will claim total victory. At long last, we will no longer have any problems. https://t.co/ti4lkWLJLF

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💝@kumbuchaqueenabout 2 years ago
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@eigenrobot My funfetti cakes will still fall for no good reasonits the aztec curse

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eigenrobot@eigenrobotalmost 2 years ago
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@threadreaderapp unroll

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Tom Wilson@monistowl11 months ago
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They shall not come with warships,They shall not waste with brands,But books be all their eating,And ink be on their hands.Not with the humour of huntersOr savage skill in war,But ordering all things with dead words,Strings shall they make of beasts and birds,And wheels of wind and star.

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hjort@rikardhjortover 1 year ago
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@eigenrobot ooh this is still the case in japanese to an extent

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