π§΅ View Thread
π§΅ Thread (21 tweets)

@univrsw3th4rt this is a big question and i don't think i have a response that fits in a tweet. you can play with the idea that whatever "normality" is there's something in it that's actively opposed to god and see where that takes you

@univrsw3th4rt related q: if enlightenment is so good why didn't we evolve to already be enlightened all the time? the response to this i find most satisfying is that cultural evolution puts pressure on memes to make people less enlightened b/c they conserve memes better that way

@univrsw3th4rt which goes back to david deutsch https://t.co/CtYBsaEyly

@MSlavin Yeah, so basically there are two ways that memes can propagate themselves: 1. they somehow convince people they should propagate them, with complete disregard to the impact of that 2. they are true/valuable, and therefore people want to use & share them

@QiaochuYuan me trying to grok that last sentence https://t.co/mlg4kfEeVq https://t.co/CHcgvZL18z


@univrsw3th4rt like, insofar as enlightenment / god both point towards this way of being that involves a lot of play and creativity, the thing about play and creativity is that they lead to you discarding old ideas in favor of new ones, right?

@univrsw3th4rt so, from a cultural evolution pov, what kind of cultural memes are likely to be able to spread themselves with *minimal change* over a long period of time? memes that *make their host humans less playful and creative*, so they *don't* question them

@univrsw3th4rt (this isn't the only force in play b/c of course there are also actual other effects that memes have, some of them make people actually happier and e.g. good at art so they spread that way, like people do actually love and spread good memes too)

@univrsw3th4rt @QiaochuYuan and in terms of why this is necessary, The Secret of Our Success points out how for a long time cultural knowledge had evolved many behaviors that no humans understood, so it was necessary to keep them from tampering https://t.co/JPLtNUSO3j

@univrsw3th4rt godliness is totality. totality minus normalcy is weirdness. most people are overindexed on normalcy, so when they embody totality, itβs the weirdness that stands out. but weirdness is only weird because we begin from a frame of reference of normalcy

@visakanv ohhhhhhhhhyeah i was stuck on the weirdness sticking out, so thinking that somehow meant weirdness was more inherently godlywhen rly itβs just the rest of whatβs missing, we already got the godly normalcy part down