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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago

there are 3 kinds of expectations 1. anticipations—what you think will happen 2. entitlements—what you think ought to happen 3. the third kind—what you can ask of someone i struggled with the third one most of my life, and it cost me https://t.co/eE6V0ipCge https://t.co/tcO261ug6u

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Malcolm Ocean īØ€šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø@Malcolm_Ocean• over 2 years ago

@mattskala @AskYatharth I have investigated this question (I now think that this writing, from 2017, is a bit confused, but it might be helpful anyway) https://t.co/VWgIJMv1O1

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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if im feeling bad or left out by a friend or partner, what can i expect? what can i ask for? i didn’t know. on one hand, asking them to change their behaviour felt wrong, and reminded me of being stuck in a codependent relationship with my parents

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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on the other, endlessly morphing myself because i was afraid of making someone angry or them flaring up because i put an expectation on them wasn’t working so great either

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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that’s pretty specific phrasing. weird, huh https://t.co/MZqUW1Qv0g

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Visakan Veerasamy@visakanv• over 5 years ago

a mariachi band named Childhood Trauma that suddenly bursts into the scene whenever you ask questions like "I wonder why I have such trouble standing my ground in the midst of an uncomfortable disagreement" https://t.co/wBltkNiqOh

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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for me, these were the opposite sides of the codependent dynamic i had with my parents they would have expectations of me, about changing my behaviour, and i would flare up. antagonise. make them bad for having had those expectations. i truly think i terrorised them

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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we were angry people, fighting in automatic ways about what it means to be good or bad people

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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at some point, i started reading this book called Queen Bees and Wannabes for parents of young daughters, and there’s this page that changed me here, in clear language, was spelled out what i could ask of friends, intimate partners, parents

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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Bill of Rights for Friends https://t.co/nwvaCtvMFG

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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if a friendship felt like it was waning, it might not be right to expect someone to invite me, but i could expect of them to hear me out, and listen to how i feel about it https://t.co/3NZ4B3upHP

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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ā€œexpectā€ in this sense doesn’t mean im making them out to be bad people. but it means it’s something im willing to ask for and not feel bad about asking

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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previously, i would try to hide my expectations from people, because i was afraid there are so many fears: - what if they get mad at me? (then i can’t leave, and ill have just made the situation worse) - what if this is an unsustainable expectation? i won’t have any friends?

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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- what if im trying to control them, and they’ll secretly resent me, and i won’t get what i want? - what if i have to acknowledge this connection that is really important to me is not willing to treat me right?

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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this paragraph sticks out to me >If and when your daughter makes the decision…it’ll be a very lonely time for her. She may know that she has made the right decision…but that’ll be only a small comfort. It takes incredible strength… Praise her courage. https://t.co/pibiSf4arv

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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this is not something you can just do. it takes incredible strength of character to be willing to step away. you need people there to stay with you. you need a mom, or IPF or friend, or a sense of self that sufficiently informed by those experiences that it’s okay

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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having expectations includes with it the very possibility of having to step away from the start this is why so many people refuse to have them https://t.co/P6tMxGTntK

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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accepting the possibility of stepping away isn’t something to scrunch through and tolerate that isn’t really accepting it, it’s deferring emotionally accepting it to a future date

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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it’s something to feel wildly sad about, as wild as it feels, and hopefully have the company (possibly just of your self) to feel all of it

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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anyway, here is your sad Avril Lavigne song of today https://t.co/15z9L77JVA

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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šŸŽµ Together, it doesn’t feel right at all šŸŽµ Together, together, we’ve built a wall šŸŽµ Together, holding hands, we’ll fall šŸŽµ Hands, we’ll fall

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharth• over 2 years ago
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if you remember one thing, just remember this: that the possibility of being abandoned is not something to scrunch through and leave your inner child alone for

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_• over 2 years ago
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@AskYatharth This resonates, I’ve been thinking lately that perhaps the minimum viable condition for friendship is mutual care - not needing to do anything per day, but at least caring about how the other person feels

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Eason C šŸ–¤šŸŒ± Suomessa šŸ‡«šŸ‡®@easoncxz• over 2 years ago
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@AskYatharth If you objectify people, type 3 turns into type 1. Bonus: If you forfeit all goals, type 2 turns into type 1.

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