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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

just had a conversation with my mom where i shared that i was scared of her

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i asked her if she would be willing to do what she had done last time - not speaking until i asked her response (didnt end up happening quite as effectively as last time but thats ok) https://t.co/fxNYeDLFoJ

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I shared that I'm afraid of conversations escalating, she said she won't do that anymore. I shared that I'm afraid she wouldn't listen, she proactively offered to not speak until I asked her response.

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i started off rehashing the last time i had asked to talk to her and for her to listen, where i talked about how it's difficult for me to feel love for her and receive from her. she was a bit impatient about why i was rehashing but i told her i was getting myself back into it

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i had thankfully clarified my intentions and stuff before the call talking to @jomrcr but i still wanted to get myself in the right headspace

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i told her i felt scared of her, that i have since i was a kid, and it lives in me even literally today, when i walked in the door and she expressed anger that i hadnt picked up the phone, because she needed help carrying heavy groceries (i was biking home)

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i feel scared that any disagreement we have could lead to her saying hurtful things to me and major disconnection. which leaves me to feel unsafe around her https://t.co/QjRgznCS8T

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I numb myself in my conversations with my mom because even listening to her words is unsafe. If I actually listen then I will have an emotional reaction that could lead to escalation and eventually pain

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

i shared this with her https://t.co/ywxbByjyHk

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

i never realized that i loved taiwan so much as a kid because it was a place i felt safe from my mom

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i think at this point she went to her well worn line about filial piety, seniority, etc. and how i need to treat her with that kind of asymmetrical respect (and implicitly if I don't then I "deserve it"). it was hard to hear

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i told her that if she insisted on the asymmetrical communication standard, i could accept it but with a lot of sadness. with it, i would never feel safe around her, and as a result, never be able to feel the depth or quantity of love I want to feel towards her

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i live in constant insecurity that any old judgment that i voice out of frustration could set off her disrespect alarms and start the escalation

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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she went on to explain and justify times in our past that she had blown up and said hurtful things to me

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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it was really hard to hear. it felt like she was basically saying "you deserve it". i managed to squeek out a few times "it sounds like you're saying that you only react that way when it's really serious"

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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at some point i managed to pause for a bit, and shared that that wasnt my experience. my experience is that for something like being careless with a vacuum cleaner as a teenager, or simply existing during our month long family trip, (cont) https://t.co/LjsS8TQiFp

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_almost 3 years ago

Sprint 20 month of traveling in Europe with my parents. Challenging lmao but heartened by my own growth

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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at any and all times despite maximum effort to simply avoid an explosive conflict, inevitably i would end up setting her off and hearing that i wasn't good enough, that she didn't want me as a son, etc., and extended (days, weeks) of disconnection (often cold shoulder)

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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she continued to explain. i think here i really slowed down. sat with my eyes closed and asked for a moment of silence to gather myself. i noticed that i was feeling the desire to defend and argue, and that i didn't want to do that.

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i reflected that she really wanted me to know that she would only say hurtful things in that way if she was feeling really hurt herselfi realized she was going into things that she felt incomplete on - moments in our history that she felt like i hadn't really heard her about

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i was tipped off by the topic of my grandpa on my dads side's passing, and my role in it - an event that has been on my to do list to truly hear her out on. i asked if i could pause to make a note of it, but if we could dig into that a different time

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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she had a similar justification monologue to launch into about the time in Europe, and i again asked if i could note it as a conversation to come back to and she agreed on both counts

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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around this time the conversation turned. at some point she had mentioned in passing that she needed to change too, to let me know if she was feeling disrespected, that it shouldn't all be on me. i thanked her for saying that. huge. i felt serious relief and gratitude

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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she said that she just had the realization that because i grew up in the US, maybe i dont know what sets her off, and that she needs to tell me (right thought, wrong reason, close enough)

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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it meant a lot to me for her to acknowledge that she had a role in our dynamics, and for her to actively take responsibility for it and want to change. i've always felt like it was always on me to make all the changes in our relationship

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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she said that she couldn't believe she never thought of it until now, that she had been wrong. she doesn't want to be like grandma, where what she says, goes, and there's no room for discussion or other peoples preferencesi believed the regret in her voice

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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i named that in particular, i appreciated her saying that she can name when she's feeling disrespected without jumping to yelling. i felt hopeful and relief

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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and also that we can heal after we inevitably hurt each other with words in a heated argument. i fear coming back to taiwan for a month, we have an argument, she doesn't talk to me for a few weeks, trip's over. there's not enough time for that https://t.co/oQVDbhyrbK

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

I just want to feel my mothers love and embrace and be held if things don’t feel ok. Sometimes i can’t. One day I’ll never be able to again. 有媽的孩子像個寶。I don’t want to lose the chances that I have

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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even more, i fear her sliding in a depressive/suicidal spiral. we'll cross that bridge in another conversation. that's this one https://t.co/vbXXzcPRwz

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago

might be having the most important conversation of my life with my mom tonight? getting in my head about it a bit

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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I came away feeling like it wasn't all on me, we're on the same team and working together to make our relationship betteri feel a little safer and willing to be courageous being authentic with my mom, not constantly guarded with numbing, escaping, NVC tactics to create safety

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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damn if i thought asking girls out took courage... willingly entering conversational space with my mom where escalation might occur terrifies me

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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but i want to do it. it's gonna take a lot of courage, but i'm tired of feeling afraid of my mom. it's time to finally feel love for herhttps://twitter.com/justavagrant_/status/1622538078589181952?s=20

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Johnson (TC House Lisbon -Dec)@justavagrant_over 2 years ago
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tears and embraces happened throughout. beautiful conversation

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Elodes@ElodesNLover 2 years ago
Replying to @justavagrant_

@justavagrant_ really great stuff, man. thanks for the detailed descriptions too, helps to have an example of how such a conversation might go.

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsover 2 years ago
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@justavagrant_ whoa, well done, sounds like there was some real progress!

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