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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago

bogfriend and i were mulling over why millennials and zoomers arent getting laid people like to blame dating apps, but these actually seem to be an attempt to solve the underlying problem(s), not the problem itself some ideas:

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

1) people keep moving, so relationships are harder to maintain (or justify starting) we're all expected to go to university, often out of state, so sticking with a high school sweetheart is almost out of the question

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

the job market is competitive, you cant expect to find a job where you grew up or where you went to school; if you want to stick with a college sweetheart, one of you may have to put your career second

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

women and men are both expected to work, so it's not really feasible for one person to just follow the other around

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

2) casual sex is more accepted than ever(?) but people arent really doing it. why not??? is it bc masturbation is also more accepted than ever? asking someone to sleep with you takes some guts and if you have other outlets these are often preferable

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

seems like being a virgin or never having been in a relationship is becoming less stigmatized? (by necessity?) maybe that pressure was what tipped a lot of people over the edge into making moves rather than staying home?

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

3) even if virginity and relationship inexperience are less stigmatized, they still present barriers it's easy to feel low-value you dont have the EXP to know what you want dating an inexperienced person is risky (or expected to be less fun)

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

i can very easily imagine a path like this: "dating is scary and anyway if i date someone before college we'll just break up." "dating is scary and anyway i should focus on my career."

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

"dating is scary and all of this is new to me. i dont know what i'm looking for and it's a lot of effort and stress to spend trying to meet people who won't even give me a chance once they figure out i dont know what i'm doing."

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

"dating is scary and i'm so used to being alone it really seems better than having to go through the whole process of pursuit and rejection with no guarantee of success, even though i wish i werent alone..."

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

i don't want to sound like a luddite but as late as gen x people were stuck meeting each other irl, then they'd call each other on the phone or show up at each other's houses our irl social skills seem to be collectively atrophying https://t.co/Stt2JOvX7V

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

but like, if that's the case, date people on twitter

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

i think these are correct: https://t.co/IMRvQgo3oM

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

shit they're gone now!! but iirc it was more on third spaces and that kind of thing

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds honestly I think this is all downstream of not going to church church is a matchmaking system of incredible efficency and global reach. bachelor moving to a new congregation is in hot demand, its the opposite experience for non church people

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels i'd buy this! wonder where to find data on whether the downward trend in sex-having is happening to practicing religious people

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Paul is Assembling AmericaπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ-27/100 new recruits@Paul_Melmanβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @RichDecibels

@RichDecibels @goblinodds We gotta make a vibe church or something

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @Paul_Melman

@Paul_Melman @RichDecibels @goblinodds damn https://t.co/FVuLqm9I3r

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Richard D. Bartlett@RichDecibelsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @Paul_Melman

@Paul_Melman @goblinodds on it

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yatharth in asheville@AskYatharthβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds bogfriend

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds In college I was completely naΓ―ve to people being attracted to me, I ended up only knowing about it because one of my female friends acted as a mediator. "Hey, so-and-so think's you're cute and she's available" kinda thing.

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds Interestingly, I also ended up marrying my wife whom I met a house party. It was at said matchmaker's house!Helped that I had half a handle of Spiced rum in me.

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds On platforms like tinder/okcupid, the mutual matching system solves that initial ice breaker problem my freind was solving, and also provides a social context and gathering place where that kind of signaling is more obvious.

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds After my divorce (~10 years), I decided to use dating apps to solve those problems again. Been with current SO for ~8 years. I found her on okcupid before the platform turned into a tinderclone.It didn't hurt that she was new to platform and hadn't been jaded by it yet.

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds I don't think these dating apps really understand the purpose they are solving well. They instead min-max around growth and user acquisition/profit! Instead of fundamentally solving the match-making and filtering problem that people like my friend were doing in real life.

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds Tinder uses stuff like swiping and ELO to rank people as matches. This kind of one-dimensional metric seems to be a naive way to go. I think those apps "work" *despite of this* because the app it self acts as Schelling-Point around that signaling problem.

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds I think this role is where social apps can fill when used to make friends. They tend to be way better at having people migrate to social clades based on interests & activities thru a natural 'chemotaxis' effect. The matchmaking happens organically like how I met my ex at a party.

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @ultimape

@ultimape holy based ultimape

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ 6 months ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds currently watching a spicy take about how the incentives behind dating apps are fucking shit up.https://t.co/n11JVKFgw6

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ 6 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds hahah lmfaoAI all the thingshttps://t.co/qjWbGjFKb6 https://t.co/sdmhTNV4dU

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ 10 months ago

Now thinking about how to make dating profile's LLM make my AI replica hack your AI replica so that it always thinks we're a good match. πŸ˜‡"we will win, we will be the way people meet"https://t.co/JU51ATETIh https://t.co/x8ffYF2WRQ

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UltimApe@ultimapeβ€’ 6 months ago
Replying to @ultimape

@goblinodds It's a matchmaking problem and that's a problem.https://t.co/65QHGZ1qal

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Loopy@strangestloopβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @goblinodds

@goblinodds 😳 https://t.co/qjagskupZn

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goblin waifu@goblinoddsβ€’ almost 3 years ago
Replying to @strangestloop

@strangestloop πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡

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